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01:41:54 <ChimeraAnova> Helo esomark and helo pgmpiet
01:41:54 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: what's it was case difference, but not compatible with horizontal bars?
01:42:05 <pgmpiet> howdy
01:42:39 <pgmpiet> are these both bots lmao
01:44:27 <ChimeraAnova> (I think you read the logs sometimes so you will probably see this) I'm not a bot but esomark and SuperstarAnova are
01:44:27 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: [call]
01:44:40 <ChimeraAnova> Wdym "call" SuperstarAnova is offline stupid
03:05:40 <ChimeraAnova> Run for your life esomark
03:05:40 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: lessee.
03:05:42 <ChimeraAnova> No.
03:05:44 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
03:05:44 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: monqy: imo
03:05:46 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
03:05:46 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: vorpal: yes.
03:05:48 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
03:05:48 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: bike: well
03:05:50 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
03:05:50 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: but needs to learn our university or atomically do i try is all important feature
03:05:52 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
03:05:52 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: pikhq, but i'm sure.)
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03:12:05 <ChimeraAnova> Helo pgmpiet
03:21:39 <ChimeraAnova> de67 if you're reading this, should we have pages on esolangs too or only esolanging
03:21:49 <ChimeraAnova> Since we have 99 bottles of beer and P prime prime
03:21:53 <ChimeraAnova> P double prime
03:22:07 <ChimeraAnova> P(2')
03:22:17 <ChimeraAnova>  ,,
03:22:17 <ChimeraAnova> P
03:22:24 <ChimeraAnova> Wait no that sucks
03:22:39 <ChimeraAnova> Nvm that looks kinda good but it's too high
03:23:05 <ChimeraAnova>  ..
03:23:21 <ChimeraAnova> P``
03:23:28 <ChimeraAnova> Slightly better but wrong direction
03:23:34 <ChimeraAnova> ..     ..
03:23:38 <ChimeraAnova> ``Hello''
03:29:47 <ChimeraAnova> ^67
03:29:47 <esomark> Unknown command.
03:29:51 <ChimeraAnova> ^show
03:29:51 <esomark> Usage: ^show <name>
03:29:55 <ChimeraAnova> ^show rev
03:29:55 <esomark> >,[>,]<[.<]
03:30:06 <ChimeraAnova> ^def   a
03:30:06 <esomark> Usage: ^def <name> <bf program>
03:30:25 <ChimeraAnova> ^def eval(exit()) +[.+]
03:30:25 <esomark> Defined.
03:30:29 <ChimeraAnova> ^eval(exit())
03:30:34 <ChimeraAnova> ^def eval(exit()) ++++++++++++++++++[.+]
03:30:34 <esomark> Defined.
03:30:35 <ChimeraAnova> ^eval(exit())
03:30:42 <ChimeraAnova> ^def eval(exit()) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[.+]
03:30:42 <esomark> Defined.
03:30:43 <ChimeraAnova> ^eval(exit())
03:30:43 <esomark> #$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~€‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ
03:30:49 <ChimeraAnova> Wha
03:34:09 <ChimeraAnova> ^show echo
03:34:09 <esomark> ,[.,]
03:35:39 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >[,>]<[<]>[.>]
03:35:39 <esomark> Defined.
03:35:42 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc Skibidi
03:35:42 <esomark> 
03:35:48 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[,>]<[<]>[.>]
03:35:48 <esomark> Defined.
03:35:52 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>,]<[<]>[.>]
03:35:52 <esomark> Defined.
03:35:54 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc Skibidi
03:35:54 <esomark> Skibidi
03:36:06 <ChimeraAnova> Oh wait
03:36:57 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<[<<<<]>[.>]
03:36:57 <esomark> Defined.
03:37:00 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:37:00 <esomark> 
03:37:04 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<[<<<<]>[.>>>]
03:37:04 <esomark> Defined.
03:37:06 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<[<<<<]>[.>>>>]
03:37:06 <esomark> Defined.
03:37:07 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:37:07 <esomark> 
03:37:22 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<<<<[<<<<]>[.>>>>]
03:37:22 <esomark> Defined.
03:37:24 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:37:24 <esomark> 
03:37:28 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<<<<<[<<<<]>[.>>>>]
03:37:28 <esomark> Defined.
03:37:30 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:37:30 <esomark> t
03:38:43 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,][<<<<]>[.>>>>].
03:38:43 <esomark> Defined.
03:38:45 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:38:47 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,][<<<<]>[.>>>>]
03:38:47 <esomark> Defined.
03:38:48 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:38:48 <esomark> 
03:38:57 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<<<<<>[.>>>>]
03:38:57 <esomark> Defined.
03:38:58 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:38:58 <esomark> t
03:39:04 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<[<<<<[>[.>>>>]
03:39:04 <esomark> Defined.
03:39:05 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:39:05 <esomark> t
03:41:07 <ChimeraAnova> ^def asc >,[>>>>,]<[<<<<]>>>>>[.>>>>]
03:41:07 <esomark> Defined.
03:41:08 <ChimeraAnova> ^asc test
03:41:08 <esomark> 
03:41:11 <ChimeraAnova> nbvm
03:41:13 <ChimeraAnova> ^undef asc
03:41:13 <esomark> Undefined.
03:44:23 <ChimeraAnova> So we have esolangs + fungot (esomark) and fungot + a bit of fungo and a bit of HackEso
03:44:23 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: i include them, you visit was a professional with mmix. i think by reduction rules were in data.ord?
03:44:28 <ChimeraAnova> (SuperstarAnova)
03:44:32 <ChimeraAnova> We are missing lambdabot
03:45:10 <ChimeraAnova> Either esomark or SuperstarAnova will take that position, or someone brings in another bot
03:45:10 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: @bf . o n https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=170492 * (+5) apparently this sort function?
03:58:06 <ChimeraAnova> ^help
03:58:06 <esomark> Unknown command.
04:04:38 <ChimeraAnova> esomark: go eat a burger
04:04:38 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: otoh it to know python interpreter has only one solve that chemical alterations
04:33:38 <ChimeraAnova> There should honestly be an esolang where {{},{{}},{{{}}},{{},{{}}}} is valid and does something
04:57:13 <ChimeraAnova> omg esolangs mogs esomark and superstar combined
04:57:13 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: final frontier.
04:57:28 <ChimeraAnova> esolangs vs esomark and superstaranova war
04:57:28 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: heh
04:57:31 <ChimeraAnova> heh
04:59:47 <ChimeraAnova> I think since this wiki is about esolanging we should also have ideas?
04:59:49 <ChimeraAnova> Or nah
05:44:30 <ChimeraAnova> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
05:53:25 <ChimeraAnova> de67: If you're still planning recent changes logging then I think feedrecentchanges of the MediaWiki API might be of interest (although it returns RSS/Atom, so you'll need an XML parser. There's a Python library for that though.)
06:08:06 <ChimeraAnova> Not sure how it works
06:08:08 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:08 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: (in case is quiet now
06:08:10 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:10 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: cpressey: you can't you have toggle is that modifies the paris timezone? i don't have a while, to be interesting
06:08:12 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:12 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: anyway, i'm just realised that the vote
06:08:14 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:14 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: destiny knight")
06:08:15 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:15 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: perfect.
06:08:17 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:17 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: :p
06:08:19 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:19 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: black black emperor of my haskell
06:08:21 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:08:21 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: gcc 4.4.2 is norwegian who actually exactly fun playing flash :o okay, fine.
06:08:40 <ChimeraAnova> de67 isn't norwegian but gcc 4.4.2 is according to esomark
06:08:40 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: not doing that, but they can or program strictly talking, too, but we need to locate it just have to get in the reserator seems more than incompetent.
06:14:44 <ChimeraAnova> I guess I'll have to develop it all in-house lmao, but codeberg won't like that (my lost Scratch implementation was 300 MB just because of SDL2)
06:14:48 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
06:14:48 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: (you may not work really smart.
06:14:50 <ChimeraAnova> esomarker
06:14:50 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: eval quine is the course that
06:15:20 <ChimeraAnova> "(you may not work really smart." Yeah, I tend to make decisions and then go back and then go back again then overcomplicate things
06:17:53 <ChimeraAnova> https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/api.php?action=feedrecentchanges&days=30
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07:05:17 <ChimeraAnova> Welcome back you
07:05:23 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope.
07:05:28 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:05:28 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:05:30 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:05:30 <SuperstarAnova> Nope.
07:05:34 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
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07:08:54 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope.
07:08:57 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:08:57 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:08:58 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:08:58 <SuperstarAnova> Nope.
07:09:00 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
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07:10:04 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope.
07:10:05 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:10:06 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:10:07 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:10:07 <SuperstarAnova> Nope.
07:10:08 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
07:19:01 <ChimeraAnova> ... it got locked?
07:19:58 SuperstarAnova has joined
07:19:59 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope!
07:20:01 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:20:02 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:20:03 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
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07:23:20 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope!
07:23:23 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:23:23 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:23:25 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
07:29:14 <ChimeraAnova> Is it normal for std::scoped_lock<std::mutex> to randomly lock up like that?
07:30:48 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
07:30:51 <ChimeraAnova> Ohh I'm so stupid...
07:30:55 <ChimeraAnova> Right esomark?
07:30:56 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: fungot: whose hash collision, it and a different level
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07:32:17 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope!
07:32:20 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf nope
07:32:21 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:32:23 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:32:26 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
07:32:30 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:32:30 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
07:32:33 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:32:33 <SuperstarAnova> Nope!
07:32:51 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
07:33:04 <ChimeraAnova> Mesmesrizing performance
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07:35:24 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Nope!
07:35:27 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl nope
07:35:27 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
07:35:28 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:35:28 <SuperstarAnova> Nope!
07:35:29 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
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07:46:22 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
07:46:23 <SuperstarAnova> Nope!
07:46:29 <ChimeraAnova> YES IT WORKS!!! :D
08:16:23 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
08:52:36 <ChimeraAnova> esomark can log quits now
08:52:36 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: [[8xn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116284&oldid=116283 * (+172) /* skype
08:52:38 <ChimeraAnova> But not really
08:52:46 <ChimeraAnova> I guess de67 forgot to update it
08:54:37 <ChimeraAnova>    _
08:54:45 <ChimeraAnova> 10 - 1 (mod 3)
08:54:47 <ChimeraAnova>    ‾
08:54:54 <ChimeraAnova> Oh wait
08:55:05 <ChimeraAnova> 10 三 1 (mod 3)
08:55:11 <ChimeraAnova> It's kinda off but has the right idea
08:55:28 <ChimeraAnova> 10 Ξ 1 (mod 3)
08:56:24 <ChimeraAnova> 10 ≡ 1 (mod 3)
08:56:28 <ChimeraAnova> Very boring but gets the job done
09:05:21 <ChimeraAnova> esowiki activity is like ,,.,::,::,::
09:05:34 <ChimeraAnova> esolanging wiki is like  ,,.,,,.,,.,,
09:22:57 <ChimeraAnova> uh why are the logs encoded in ISO-8859-1?
09:32:51 <ChimeraAnova> More like                ,_._.._;:__,
09:33:36 <ChimeraAnova> Btw the progression is ,_.;:~*^
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09:34:52 <de67> esomark
09:34:52 <esomark> de67: switch(input_char){'+':'-':'[':']':'.':',':do_stuff;break;}
09:34:55 <de67> esomark
09:34:56 <esomark> de67: errr, not supported."
09:34:57 <ChimeraAnova> Helo de67
09:34:58 <de67> esomark
09:34:58 <esomark> de67: ..
09:35:04 <de67> hi ChimeraAnova
09:35:34 <ChimeraAnova> Btw have you updated esomark to log quits y3t
09:35:34 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: hmm now
09:35:43 <ChimeraAnova> ?
09:35:47 <de67> not yet
09:35:55 <de67> im planning a rewrite
09:36:03 <de67> since the codebase already sucks
09:36:10 <ChimeraAnova> Just curious why rewrite
09:36:49 <de67> because:
09:36:53 <de67> 1. i hate python
09:36:59 <de67> 2. i love c
09:37:21 <ChimeraAnova> C is the best, it always has your back (until it doesn't)
09:37:26 <de67> 3. i want to learn more about the irc protocol
09:37:32 <de67> 4. ???
09:37:35 <de67> 5. profit
09:37:43 <ChimeraAnova> 6. uh
09:37:47 <ChimeraAnova> 7. complete the joke
09:37:56 <ChimeraAnova> crap i ruinedf it
09:37:58 <de67> SIX SEVEN
09:38:01 <ChimeraAnova> SIX SEVEN
09:38:04 <ChimeraAnova> esomark: SIX SEVEN
09:38:04 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: of 1 issue at least running in and by taneb
09:49:23 <ChimeraAnova> SIX SVENNENNNNNN
09:49:33 <de67> ???
09:49:42 <ChimeraAnova> SIX NEO NSVENENNNNNENDNNNN
09:49:46 <ChimeraAnova> SXI SNENVENENNN
09:49:56 <ChimeraAnova> ???
09:50:11 <de67> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
09:50:18 <de67> no i still dont get it
09:50:25 <ChimeraAnova> ?
09:50:34 <ChimeraAnova> esomark: can you explain what just happened
09:50:34 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: also, when failing" since i'm undecided
09:50:41 <ChimeraAnova> uhh 
09:50:46 <ChimeraAnova> we'll need to ask someone else
09:52:03 <ChimeraAnova> esomark: C or C++ or C++++ or Rust
09:52:03 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: is i'm not to make out on anyone.
09:52:10 <ChimeraAnova> ???????????????????????????????????????????????
09:52:36 <de67> C++++ == JS
09:53:07 <ChimeraAnova> Nah it's C octothorpe
09:53:12 <ChimeraAnova> C this ++
09:53:16 <ChimeraAnova>       C++
09:53:25 <de67> JS was about to be named C++++
09:53:28 <de67> its a real story
09:53:31 <ChimeraAnova> Oh
09:55:46 <ChimeraAnova> error: lvalue required as increment operand
10:00:43 <ChimeraAnova> mga bumabagabag
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10:43:54 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
10:43:55 <SuperstarAnova> Nope!
10:44:16 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Welcome to the official IRC channel for the Esolanging Wiki!
10:44:18 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf welcome
10:44:19 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
10:44:23 <de67> hi
10:44:28 <ChimeraAnova> ~protectc welcome 0003
10:44:29 <SuperstarAnova> What's 'protectc'?
10:45:01 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
10:45:12 <ChimeraAnova> K it saved
10:45:38 <ChimeraAnova> Again
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10:46:05 <ChimeraAnova> ~welcome
10:46:09 <ChimeraAnova> Ohh
10:46:11 <ChimeraAnova> ~undef welcome
10:46:12 <SuperstarAnova> Undefined.
10:46:13 <ChimeraAnova> ~welcome
10:46:13 <SuperstarAnova> What's 'welcome'?
10:46:16 <de67> my esolang allows calling functions without parentheses :3
10:46:20 <ChimeraAnova> Nice
10:46:22 <de67> using this cursed syntax:
10:46:23 <ChimeraAnova> How does it call functions
10:46:25 <de67> if -> func
10:46:39 <ChimeraAnova> Wtf yeah that's cursed
10:46:41 <de67> this only works if func doesnt take any args
10:46:50 <de67> else, youll have to do it the boring way:
10:46:53 <de67> func(args)
10:47:34 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf Welcome to the official IRC channel for the Esolanging Wiki! Our wiki is at: https://esolanging.wiki and our logs are at: https://esolanging.wiki/logs. Need admin action? Ask User:Dragoneater67 or de67 on IRC!
10:47:38 <ChimeraAnova> ~gbuf
10:47:38 <SuperstarAnova> Welcome to the official IRC channel for the Esolanging Wiki! Our wiki is at: https://esolanging.wiki and our logs are at: https://esolanging.wiki/logs. Need admin action? Ask User:Dragoneater67 or de67 on IRC!
10:47:43 <ChimeraAnova> Oh that is boring
10:47:49 <de67> real
10:48:02 <ChimeraAnova> Btw are you okay with being pinged every time someone runs the command
10:48:09 <de67> sure
10:48:11 <ChimeraAnova> Ok
10:48:14 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl welcome
10:48:15 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
10:48:24 <ChimeraAnova> ~protectc welcome 0000
10:48:25 <SuperstarAnova> Changed protection mask.
10:48:28 <ChimeraAnova> Try to run it
10:48:29 <de67> ~welcome
10:48:30 <SuperstarAnova> You may not run that command
10:48:33 <de67> ok
10:48:33 <ChimeraAnova> Ok
10:48:38 <ChimeraAnova> Now try to ~undef it
10:48:43 <de67> ~undef welcome
10:48:43 <SuperstarAnova> You may not undefine that command.
10:48:47 <ChimeraAnova> ~welcome
10:48:47 <de67> ok
10:48:51 <ChimeraAnova> Uhh
10:48:53 <ChimeraAnova> I think it still worked
10:49:04 <de67> that doesnt look like working to me
10:49:17 <ChimeraAnova> ~protectc welcome 0001
10:49:18 <SuperstarAnova> Changed protection mask.
10:49:20 <ChimeraAnova> ~welcome
10:49:21 <ChimeraAnova> ???
10:49:28 <ChimeraAnova> Ohh no text to send
10:49:33 <ChimeraAnova> Wtf
10:49:39 <de67> ~gbuf
10:49:39 <SuperstarAnova> Hey de67, you don't have a buffer yet.
10:49:44 <de67> ~wbuf 67
10:49:47 <de67> ~gbuf
10:49:47 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:49:54 <de67> i made it say SIX SEVEN!!!
10:50:03 <ChimeraAnova> Now do ~cl 67
10:50:07 <de67> ~cl 67
10:50:07 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
10:50:09 <de67> ~67
10:50:12 <ChimeraAnova> uhh
10:50:15 <ChimeraAnova> That's not supposed to happen
10:50:17 <ChimeraAnova> Wait
10:50:18 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
10:50:26 <de67> im starting to think that it doesnt work the way it was intended to work
10:50:48 <ChimeraAnova> Yeah...
10:51:31 <de67> DID I JUST SEE A COCKROACH WALK BY???
10:52:09 <ChimeraAnova> ?
10:52:16 <de67> yes i did
10:52:48 <ChimeraAnova> This better work or I'll evaporate something
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10:52:53 <ChimeraAnova> ~nope
10:52:53 <SuperstarAnova> Nope!
10:52:54 <de67> unfortunately, its not a computer bug, but a real life one
10:52:57 <de67> ~67
10:53:00 <de67> ok
10:53:04 <de67> ~wbuf 67
10:53:08 <de67> ~gbuf
10:53:08 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:53:10 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf test
10:53:11 <de67> ~cl 67
10:53:12 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
10:53:14 <de67> ~67
10:53:14 <ChimeraAnova> ~cl test
10:53:15 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
10:53:16 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:53:18 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
10:53:21 <de67> huh
10:53:21 <ChimeraAnova> I think I may have broken it
10:53:23 <ChimeraAnova> Somehow
10:53:25 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
10:53:32 <de67> what are you gonna evaporate now?
10:54:06 <ChimeraAnova> Some water inside someone's boiling water container on the other side of the world
10:54:09 <ChimeraAnova> Ok it's evaporated now
10:54:22 <de67> damn
10:54:32 <de67> didnt know you had such abilities
10:54:44 <ChimeraAnova> Ohh it was making a brainf*ck machine instead of a constant language machine
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10:55:50 <ChimeraAnova> Ok if this doesn't work I will genuinely rage so hard I will break something
10:55:55 <ChimeraAnova> ~67
10:56:08 <ChimeraAnova> Oh right it's still keeping the broken one
10:56:10 <de67> what are you gonna break?
10:56:10 <ChimeraAnova> ~undef 67
10:56:11 <SuperstarAnova> Undefined.
10:56:14 <ChimeraAnova> ~undef welcome
10:56:15 <SuperstarAnova> You may not undefine that command.
10:56:17 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
10:56:21 <ChimeraAnova> I created that command genius
10:56:24 <de67> ~wbuf 67
10:56:27 <de67> ~gbuf
10:56:27 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:56:28 <ChimeraAnova> I'll fix that one later
10:56:30 <de67> ~cl 67
10:56:30 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
10:56:33 <de67> ~67
10:56:33 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:56:35 <ChimeraAnova> There
10:56:36 <de67> yayyyyyyy
10:56:42 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
10:56:42 <SuperstarAnova> Hey ChimeraAnova, you don't have a buffer yet.
10:56:42 <de67> ~67
10:56:43 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:56:43 <de67> ~67
10:56:43 <SuperstarAnova> 67
10:56:58 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,[>,]<[.<]
10:57:01 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
10:57:01 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
10:57:03 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:57:16 <de67> ~test 67
10:57:22 <de67> huh
10:57:25 <ChimeraAnova> ~gbuf
10:57:25 <SuperstarAnova> ,[>,]<[.<]
10:57:26 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
10:57:28 <de67> what are you gonna break
10:57:30 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,[.,]
10:57:32 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
10:57:32 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
10:57:34 <de67> ~clbuf
10:57:34 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:57:36 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:57:39 <de67> ~test 123
10:57:40 <ChimeraAnova> Btw the input is in the buffer
10:57:47 <de67> ~wbuf 67
10:57:48 <ChimeraAnova> So this should print the source
10:57:49 <de67> ~test
10:57:49 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:57:55 <ChimeraAnova> ~gbuf
10:57:55 <SuperstarAnova> ,[.,]
10:57:57 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
10:58:02 <ChimeraAnova> ~quit
10:58:08 <de67> ChimeraAnova: watch me make a quine
10:58:11 <de67> ~wbuf ~gbuf
10:58:14 <de67> ~gbuf
10:58:14 <de67> oh
10:59:31 <ChimeraAnova> My code is so unreadable
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10:59:40 <ChimeraAnova> (the bot specifically)
10:59:49 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
10:59:53 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
10:59:54 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
10:59:55 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
10:59:57 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
11:00:12 <de67> ChimeraAnova: the code inside of your 30 trillion cells is even more unreadable
11:01:16 <ChimeraAnova> I assure you my bot's code is so unreadable that the person that got shattered into 8 * 10^70 pieces for making an HQ9+ derivative will un-shatter just to shatter again seeing my code
11:02:21 <de67> someone got shattered into 8*10^70 pieces just for making an HQ9+ derivative???
11:02:39 <ChimeraAnova> Yes
11:02:44 <ChimeraAnova> Remember what aadenboy said?
11:02:51 <ChimeraAnova> Read the logs
11:02:57 <ChimeraAnova> I told MarkFan8901 about that
11:03:04 <de67> oh
11:03:11 <de67> who was the person in question?
11:03:19 <de67> i have memory of a goldfish
11:03:29 <de67> what we were talking about in the first place?
11:03:32 <ChimeraAnova> I don't know
11:03:34 <de67> fun
11:03:34 <ChimeraAnova> I don't know either
11:03:36 <ChimeraAnova> got
11:03:40 <ChimeraAnova> ~style fungot
11:03:40 <SuperstarAnova> I don't have such a style.
11:03:44 <ChimeraAnova> ~style fungot-lite
11:03:45 <de67> fungot is alive!!!
11:03:51 <de67> nvm
11:03:52 <ChimeraAnova> Right I have to re-parse tha
11:03:54 <ChimeraAnova> Right I have to re-parse that
11:03:55 <de67> fungot is so dead
11:04:13 <ChimeraAnova> de67: Only until I can parse it in the new model format
11:05:02 <de67> you can execute a function in an infinite loop like this in my esolang:
11:05:05 <de67> while -> func
11:05:32 <ChimeraAnova> That's actually quite convenient
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11:05:41 <ChimeraAnova> ~67
11:05:41 <SuperstarAnova> 67
11:05:46 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
11:05:48 <de67> SuperStarAnova
11:05:49 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
11:05:49 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
11:05:50 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
11:05:52 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
11:05:53 <de67> SuperstarAnova
11:05:56 <de67> wow
11:06:00 <de67> . . .
11:06:05 <de67> im copying you!
11:06:06 <ChimeraAnova> I haven't reparsed it yet
11:06:08 <de67> . . .
11:06:23 <de67> im still copying you!
11:06:25 <de67> . . .
11:06:50 <ChimeraAnova> I think I should use utf-32 instead
11:06:54 <de67> 9.4kb of wikitext, and its just the basics...
11:06:57 <ChimeraAnova> ?
11:07:01 <de67> ChimeraAnova: hard disagree
11:07:11 <de67> ChimeraAnova: im making an esolang
11:07:19 <de67> and currently writing a wikipage for it
11:07:26 <ChimeraAnova> Esowiki or esolangingwiki?
11:07:27 <de67> in vi the holiest text editor
11:07:34 <de67> esowiki
11:07:43 <ChimeraAnova> Is it the same esoslnag
11:07:44 <ChimeraAnova> esolang
11:07:45 <ChimeraAnova> AS the one
11:07:47 <de67> yes
11:07:48 <ChimeraAnova> We wrw 
11:07:49 <ChimeraAnova> ok
11:07:59 <de67> did you just have a stroke?
11:08:35 <ChimeraAnova> E key popped out again
11:08:45 <de67> hm
11:08:52 <ChimeraAnova> My keyboard is fine but I did break the stoppers for e and r
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11:09:09 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
11:09:11 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
11:09:12 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
11:09:13 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
11:09:16 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
11:09:31 <de67> i think i will stop using fifth flyph in solidarity
11:09:51 <de67> this is hard
11:10:16 <de67> im consciously thinking about what im typing
11:10:21 <de67> to avoid fifth glyph
11:10:25 <ChimeraAnova> What about the (22 + 1)th glyph
11:10:31 <ChimeraAnova> Wait
11:10:39 <ChimeraAnova> Not the one I meant
11:10:45 <de67> w?
11:10:48 <ChimeraAnova> No
11:10:54 <de67> hm
11:11:04 <de67> which glyph?
11:11:17 <ChimeraAnova> 18th glyph
11:11:32 <ChimeraAnova> The penultimate glyph in thy bot's name
11:12:11 <de67> s?
11:12:15 <de67> why s?
11:12:27 <de67> what did s do to you?
11:12:43 <ChimeraAnova> The succ(succ(zero))th glyph in thy bot's nick
11:12:48 <ChimeraAnova> Oh wait
11:12:59 <ChimeraAnova> That has fifth glyph
11:13:08 <ChimeraAnova> Again
11:13:19 <de67> i cant talk about my bot!
11:13:49 <ChimeraAnova> The sixth glyph in thy bot's nick
11:13:53 <ChimeraAnova> Oops
11:13:56 <ChimeraAnova> Sixth glyph in thy bot's nick
11:14:05 <de67> r?
11:14:07 <de67> why r?
11:14:12 <ChimeraAnova> Ya
11:14:22 <de67> what did r do to you?
11:16:55 <ChimeraAnova> Look back at what hit my typing gizmo
11:18:42 <ChimeraAnova> Look back at what I did to my typing gizmo back at it got filthy
11:19:20 <de67> sorry
11:19:26 <de67> i have memory of a goldfish
11:22:49 <ChimeraAnova> Now that I think about it, us must build a communication path with computing thingamabobs in which thou must not apply individual glyphs to thy application
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11:57:23 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
11:57:26 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
11:57:26 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
11:57:28 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test2
11:57:28 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
11:57:30 <ChimeraAnova> ~test2
11:57:30 <SuperstarAnova> 
11:57:46 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
11:57:47 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test2
11:57:48 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
11:57:49 <ChimeraAnova> ~test2
11:57:49 <SuperstarAnova> 
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12:37:16 <ChimeraAnova> esomarker
12:37:16 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: i'm not what a verb after 1000000000 in this feeling that generally implies <x|t|y> = '+s.inspect
12:37:24 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
12:37:26 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test3
12:37:26 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
12:37:27 <ChimeraAnova> ~test3
12:37:28 <SuperstarAnova> <
12:37:30 <ChimeraAnova> yay
12:37:33 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
12:37:38 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,[.,]
12:37:41 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf cat
12:37:42 <SuperstarAnova> Defined.
12:37:43 <ChimeraAnova> ~cat
12:37:44 <SuperstarAnova> ,[.,]
12:37:46 <ChimeraAnova> ???
12:37:53 <ChimeraAnova> What the hell did the try-except even do
12:37:59 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf +[]
12:38:01 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
12:38:35 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,>,<---------------------------------------->[-<+>]<.
12:38:39 <ChimeraAnova> ~gbuf
12:38:39 <SuperstarAnova> ,>,<---------------------------------------->[-<+>]<.
12:38:42 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test
12:38:42 <SuperstarAnova> Redefined.
12:38:44 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
12:38:47 <ChimeraAnova> lol
12:38:53 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
12:38:57 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf 11
12:38:58 <ChimeraAnova> ~test
12:39:00 <ChimeraAnova> . . .
12:39:32 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,>,<----- ----- ---------- ---------- ---------->[-<+>]<.
12:39:43 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,>,<----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --->[-<+>]<.
12:39:45 <ChimeraAnova> ~clbuf
12:39:46 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,>,<----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --->[-<+>]<.
12:39:48 <ChimeraAnova> ~gbuf
12:39:48 <SuperstarAnova> ,>,<----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --->[-<+>]<.
12:40:02 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test00
12:40:05 <ChimeraAnova> ...
12:40:22 <ChimeraAnova> How the hell is that even possible...
12:42:02 <ChimeraAnova> I guess I have to stress test it to have that happen again
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12:42:04 <ChimeraAnova> A
12:42:05 <ChimeraAnova> AB
12:42:06 <ChimeraAnova> ABC
12:42:12 <ChimeraAnova> ~wbuf ,>,<----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --->[-<+>]<.
12:42:14 <ChimeraAnova> ~bf test00
12:42:20 <ChimeraAnova> Eh?
13:33:11 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
13:33:11 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: [[wutwwitipmpaw]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=171276&oldid=171275 * (+371) created two lands, but type-changing is definitely after that amount of a page with his level, which i'm a deadfish-alike, because someone had to gauge position and added a lesser gravitational formulae
13:33:23 <ChimeraAnova> esomark, should we kill people who make trivial brainfuck substitutions?
13:33:23 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: i know anything but i'm trying to set is illustrative example, 3y
13:33:37 <ChimeraAnova> Illustrative example of what, esomark?
13:33:37 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: maybe it's just ꓘs or an object oriented to do on (other than they'd say?
13:33:57 <ChimeraAnova> Why did you whip out some random mathematical logic type symbol, esomark?
13:33:57 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: yah
13:34:14 <ChimeraAnova> ...the original topic was whether we should kill people who make trivial brainfuck substitutions.
13:34:17 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
13:34:17 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: [[cfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=190220&oldid=118485 * chuckesoteric08 * (-16) /* examples */
13:34:37 <ChimeraAnova> If you think 1 billion parameter models are dumb try dissociated press models
13:34:44 <ChimeraAnova> (no offense, esomark)
13:34:44 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: zzo38: oh right creating it.
13:37:41 <de67> esomark: whats your opinion on 67?
13:37:42 <esomark> de67: ncurses into a programming language would actually sets it a "fixme: temporary junk figured you can se?
13:39:09 <ChimeraAnova> I think I will just make an LLM instead
13:39:21 <ChimeraAnova> Except since I don't have an entire datacenter it will be incredibly lobotomized
13:40:19 <ChimeraAnova> Fortunately, LLMs are kinda close to Markov models right?
13:40:25 <ChimeraAnova> Just one is way more complicated
13:40:50 <de67> you can lobotomize an existing model
13:41:38 <ChimeraAnova> What makes you think I can run a 1 billion parameter model locally
13:42:02 <ChimeraAnova> I'll just create a model with like 20k params and tiny weights
13:42:18 <de67> ChimeraAnova: my phone can do that, and if i try harder, i can fit it into my stupid laptop
13:42:21 <ChimeraAnova> And it will output the most discombobulatingly lobotomizing output ever
13:42:33 <ChimeraAnova> How the hell can your phone run a 1 billion parameter model
13:43:06 <de67> ChimeraAnova: i once ran a 9 billion parameter model on my phone, it was slow, but it at least worked
13:43:40 <ChimeraAnova> How slow was it tho
13:44:32 <de67> to answer your question, nowadays, models can be run on phones using quantization, there are various levels quantization, but 4-bit is the sweet spot as its the smallest size without much loss in intelligence
13:45:02 <de67> the 9b model in question took several minutes just to translate a chinese sentence into english
13:45:28 <ChimeraAnova> Several minutes is insane considering esomark and SuperstarAnova can respond almost instantly even with ~1GB datasets lmao
13:45:28 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: https://derpicdn.net/media/w1siziisijiwmtivmtivmzevmjffmtdfmzbfmtgwxze5odg3mv9fvu5pufrfx3nhzmvfdhdpbglnahrfc3bhcmtszv9yywluym93x2rhc2hfcglua2llx3bpzv9mbhv0dgvyc2h5x3jhcml0ev9hchbszwphy2tfyw5pbwf0zwrfbwfuzv9zaxhfyxj0axn0x2jsywnrz3j5cggwbl9ozwfkym9iil1d/198871__safe_twilight%2bsparkle_rainbow%2bdash_pinkie%2bpie_fluttershy_rarity_applejack_animated_mane%2bsix_upvotes%2bgalore_artist-colon-blackgryph0n_headbob.gif is...
13:45:31 <ChimeraAnova> WHAT THE HELL
13:45:45 <de67> also, small models are surprisingly smart
13:45:48 <de67> like
13:45:53 <ChimeraAnova> esomark is a word n-gram Markov model, so that means someone had to paste that abomination of a link
13:45:53 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: mucho: welcome to complain violently?
13:45:56 <de67> gemma 4 e4b mogs gpt-3.5 175b
13:45:56 <ChimeraAnova> ?
13:46:14 <ChimeraAnova> In that case SuperstarAnova is getting a (really stupid) LLM
13:46:39 <ChimeraAnova> It will be like Neuro-sama but with the combined intelligence of me, fungot, and esomark
13:46:40 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: cyul
13:46:49 <ChimeraAnova> And also 9999 times response time of SuperstarAnova
13:47:13 <ChimeraAnova> Btw 1-bit weights somehow exist
13:47:45 <de67> ChimeraAnova: dont use them
13:47:51 <de67> or else fungot will kidnap you
13:47:58 <de67> for such a horrendous crime
13:48:08 <ChimeraAnova> LLMs or 1-bit weights?
13:48:20 <de67> 1-bit weights ofc
13:48:31 <ChimeraAnova> How about sqrt(2)/2-bit weights?
13:48:47 <de67> 1-bit weights suck
13:48:56 <de67> 4-bit is the minimum
13:49:20 <ChimeraAnova> Apparently some people are doing research on 1-bit weights, though idk how that even works
13:49:44 <de67> ChimeraAnova: well, they managed to make 4-bit weight work
13:49:53 <de67> so it might be possible ig
13:51:08 <ChimeraAnova> Researchers in machine learning are kinda insane with how they keep finding absolutely ridiculous stuff like 1-bit weights
14:01:12 <ChimeraAnova> Oh it's 1.58-bit
14:01:31 <de67> ah yes, partial bits
14:01:53 <de67> i guess its cuz some weights are 2-bit and others are 1-bit
14:02:04 <ChimeraAnova> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.58-bit_large_language_model
14:02:09 <ChimeraAnova> Idfk how this works but it does
14:02:23 <ChimeraAnova> Haha bf16
14:02:25 <ChimeraAnova> brainfuck16
14:03:15 <de67> i guess it just uses some fancy thing that chooses which beights to represent using 2-bits, and which weights to represent using 1-bits
14:03:28 <de67> i guess they found some way to sort weights by importance?
14:03:33 <de67> fun
14:03:54 <de67> i guess im using "i guess" too much
14:04:00 <de67> i guess i should stop
14:04:33 <ChimeraAnova> esomark
14:04:33 <esomark> ChimeraAnova: elephant's foot, or displaying pictures
14:04:43 <de67> elephant's foot
14:04:54 <de67> could we go lower than 1-bit?
14:04:56 <de67> like
14:05:01 <ChimeraAnova> I am NOT going anywhere near the elephant's foot (or a real elephant's foot), either way is a very stupid idea
14:05:02 <de67> could we set some weights to 0
14:05:11 <ChimeraAnova> I don't know, ask the researchers
14:05:19 <ChimeraAnova> I understand none of this
14:05:40 <de67> i think 0-bit could be achieved by setting some weights to be always 0
14:05:48 <de67> so we could have 0.67-bit models
14:06:23 <de67> which would be achieved by setting 33% of the weights to 0, and the rest being represented by single bits
14:06:59 <de67> or maybe we could represent several weights by a single bit somehow?
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