00:11:00 Common bases for esolangs: brainfuck, (Be)funge[-98], deadfish, HQ9(+) 00:11:59 56 guests on esoforums is WILD 00:13:45 56 -> 20 00:13:47 *55 00:13:50 55 -> 19 00:23:04 I wonder if so-called "static site" hosts like GitHub/Codeberg Pages allow for an index.html that makes requests to a server somewhere 00:23:27 Since I just see that a static site is comprised of static HTML files and stuff, but it gets all muddy when you add a backend 00:24:50 What if the HTML files themselves are static, but they have some JavaScript that makes a connection with a backend server 00:27:39 Oh 00:27:47 I see that they limit the workers I think 00:27:54 SO unlimited static site hosting 00:28:05 Heh sulfuric oxide 00:28:13 (idk what that is) 00:43:48 I wonder what C11 and C17 think about C "struct inheritance" 00:50:09 And also C++11 and C++17 00:50:12 Idk what C++14 is about 02:08:58 Candy! 02:08:59 Candy! 02:08:59 Candy! 02:09:00 Cooki! 02:09:03 oops 02:09:04 e 02:09:05 eh 02:25:27 hhi 02:47:18 irc.esolanging.wiki 02:51:03 You should add logging for quits, joins, parts (leaving from channel), nick changes, and CTCP 02:51:31 oh my 02:51:34 is that... 02:51:41 activity on irc??? 02:51:54 where 02:52:07 here 02:52:15 Wdym 02:52:17 esomarker 02:52:19 esomarker 02:52:20 also, look at this: Most users ever online was 158 on Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:05 pm 02:52:31 Oh yeah 02:52:47 i hope those are people 02:52:55 I wonder how much of that is real people 02:53:05 (I wonder if ais523 was one of them) 02:54:38 hm 02:54:48 i doubt that 02:55:02 I wonder if ais523 knows about the forums 02:55:08 We do know that he knows the wiki 02:55:11 like, you need to exactly google "esolang forum" to find it 02:55:17 or read my userpage 02:55:19 But I wonder if he knows about the forums and the doesolang wiki 02:55:31 both are things that dont happen too often 02:55:44 he almost certainly knows about esolanging wiki tho 02:57:08 doesolang forum is so obscure 02:57:42 (and i feel like it doesnt have a thing that makes it distinct from other esoteric wikis) 02:58:40 it has 2 interwikis other than wikipedia 02:58:53 Esolang has 0 and Esolanging has 1 02:59:44 hm 02:59:52 should we add esolanging interwiki 03:00:08 doesolang interwiki, i meant 03:00:52 done 03:01:00 uh 03:01:03 ok 03:01:29 Fuck 03:01:33 Oh wait 03:01:45 Oh it's broken 03:01:49 ye 03:01:54 i see why its broken 03:02:11 ohh 03:02:41 Fixed it 03:02:45 Nvm 03:02:58 youre doing great admin work 03:03:12 Fixed 3 03:03:15 Fixed 2 03:04:19 Nice it works 03:07:09 yep 03:07:12 i tested it 03:09:34 In total there are 96 users online :: 2 registered, 0 hidden and 94 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes) 03:09:38 !!! 03:09:42 whar 03:09:58 Google bot is here 03:10:25 Unfortunately those 94 guests are probably stupid scraper bots 03:11:03 btw 03:11:11 openbsd toaster is almost finished 03:11:18 i just need the 3rd impl 03:11:22 Nice 03:11:51 What language should the third impl be in 03:12:10 no preference 03:12:17 but not python or c 03:12:31 im gonna fix c impl 03:12:43 Ok 03:14:17 Nonstraightforward impl then 03:17:10 fixed 03:21:09 This also gives bonus points for esolang implemetnation since I use an esolang (esolexicon) 03:21:13 So +5 03:26:34 wait a damn second 03:26:48 nonstraightforward was written in js??? 03:27:04 no i cant believe this 03:27:13 i thought we truly had a shared enemy... 03:28:13 keyword: was 03:28:20 but it still compiles to js like any modern language 03:28:48 ok 03:29:06 youre still being sentenced to D.E.A.T.H. 03:29:25 Yeah that's fair 03:31:00 MiniCometIIWW: wanna become esolang forum moderator? 03:31:53 Sure? 03:35:42 youre now a full moderator 03:38:09 ill disconnect for a second 03:38:45  03:41:35 :] 03:41:51 :] 03:43:14 04r0407a0708i0809n0911b1112o1206w06 03:45:38 JavaScript doesn't throw exceptions when you access an array out of bounds btw :3 03:45:47 why 03:46:05 The arrays are hashmaps :3 03:46:12 why 03:46:32 ask brendan eich 03:46:58 ok 03:57:26 xkcd random 03:57:27 nmber 03:57:30 radnom number 03:57:32 random nu mer 03:57:35 random number 03:57:43 ? 03:57:49 4 03:57:52 ?? 03:58:17 ??? 03:58:20 ???? 03:58:21 ????? 03:58:22 ?????? 03:58:23 ??????? 03:58:25 loopqing counter 03:58:44 this is the example section of an esowiki page 03:58:49 :-) 03:59:02 There should be another esolang based on IRc 03:59:04 IRC 03:59:19 yes 03:59:20 yes 03:59:21 yes 03:59:24 skubidi 03:59:25 w 03:59:26 deep 03:59:29 deep 03:59:38 w? 03:59:43 grass reference???? 03:59:45 Wait 04:00:16 ? 04:00:27 1 04:00:31 1 04:00:36 WHAT 04:00:40 WHY AM I DELAYED 04:00:41 STOP THAT 04:00:43 1 04:00:45 11 04:00:47 111 04:01:05 1101 04:01:12 11111 04:01:23 110001 04:01:39 1110011 04:01:50 rule 110? 04:01:56 Yes but I broke it 04:02:01 Nvm 04:02:11 11010111 04:02:25 111111101 04:02:34 I wonder if LLMs can do that 04:02:36 * 04:02:38 ** 04:02:39 *** 04:02:43 ** * 04:02:46 ***** 04:02:49 ** * 04:02:55 *** ** 04:03:00 ** * *** 04:03:05 ********* 04:03:11 oops 04:03:15 ******* * 04:03:21 ** *** 04:03:26 *** ** * 04:03:32 ** * ***** 04:03:39 ***** ** * 04:03:53 ** * *** ** 04:04:00 *** **** * *** 04:04:08 ** * ** ***** * 04:04:17 *********** *** 04:04:23 ** * ** * 04:04:34 *** ** ***** 04:04:43 ** * ***** * 04:04:50 ***** ** * ** 04:04:59 ** * *** ** *** 04:05:08 *** ** ** * ***** * 04:05:17 ** * *** ******* *** 04:05:29 ******* * ** * ** * 04:05:40 ** *** *** ** ***** 04:05:53 *** ** *** * ***** * 04:06:06 ** * ***** *** ** * ** 04:06:16 Somehwat broken Rule 110 triangle 04:06:32 looks fine to me 04:07:36 I wonder if LLMs can do that 04:07:55 maybe 04:08:11 rule 110 is quite simple 04:08:19 Speaking of which, I think it'd be really funny to have an IRC simulation game or something where you make a server and lock an LLM, 5 Markov models, and 2 humans in the server for 2 weeks 04:08:31 And you can just watch the chat devolve into nonsense 04:08:52 isnt that just #esolangs ? 04:09:30 In total there are 104 users online :: 1 registered, 0 hidden and 103 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes) 04:09:40 Yeah but #esolangs is dead and fizzie said he might restrict the esolangs LLM 04:09:51 damn 04:10:24 it seems like a lot of activity has moved to #esolanging 04:10:29 i wonder why 04:10:31 Wdym 04:10:57 #rsolangs has been less active than #esolanging recently 04:11:02 PkmnQ 04:11:03 #| 04:11:07 #esolangs 04:11:15 #esolanging mogs #esolangs 04:11:51 Speaking of games I wonder if Funge-98 could be used to write a server for a tank game like diep or woomy 04:12:32 prolly 04:12:42 funge-98 has networking iirc 04:12:49 which is why fungot exists 04:13:37 Turns out the CFFI fingerprint exists so you could link with LibreSSL/OpenSSL and some libraries for WebSockets then you could write a browser game in Funge-98 04:14:09 amazing!!! 04:14:49 The SOCK fingerprint exists too 04:15:49 I guess Funge-98 is the best option since other esolangs are too primitive (think brainfuck or Malbolge) and annoying to write while others are not that esoteric (think Uiua and the esolexicons) 04:16:46 hm 04:17:10 maybe i should make a semi-practical esolang 04:17:18 but i already have a draft i need to finish 04:17:25 and also a different idea 04:17:38 so i first finish those 2 04:17:48 then get to the practical esolang 04:18:00 Semi-practical esolangs are genuinely cool, althought the term does imply that esolangs aren't usually practical (which is true, though impracticality is usually the goal) 04:18:17 Then again, that puts into people's heads that esolangs can't be practical 04:18:59 esolangs shouldnt be practical 04:19:24 I wonder tho is hex2 is an esolang 04:19:35 Or hex0 04:19:43 Since hex0 is just ASCII machine code 04:19:48 what are those 04:19:52 they seem familiar 04:20:01 i think ive seen them during category deletion 04:20:03 hex0 is ASCII hex machine code 04:20:07 hex1 is hex0 but with stuff 04:20:14 hex2 is hex1 with macros and labels 04:20:23 all those seem like.fancy asm 04:21:08 I'd say they're sub-assembly since in hex2 you're still writing hex machine code 04:21:36 also technically underspecified 04:21:47 since what the code does depends on architecture 04:21:48 cool it worked 04:21:50 hi PkmnQ 04:21:54 what worked? 04:23:08 i'm on my phone using the web client 04:23:28 oh 04:23:29 that's what worked 04:23:33 thats cool 04:23:45 im on my phone using catgirl though linux vm 04:23:47 yes 04:23:49 im so fancy 04:23:55 intriguing 04:24:16 android versions 16 and lager have built in linux vm 04:24:25 that can be enabled through dev options 04:24:31 works only some devices 04:24:39 unfortunately i'm all the way back at 10 04:24:40 since it reqjires hardware support 04:25:38 PkmnQ: dw, termux should work 04:25:46 in fact, termux would be faster 04:25:53 since it runs directly on android 04:26:22 (which worsens security, but android 10 stopped receiving support a long time ago, so who tf cares) 04:29:31 de67 has quit (Quit: quit) 04:31:43 ive switched to libera webchat 04:32:05 I wonder how fast the fastest uwufier is 04:32:14 Written in Rust and uses a lot of SIMD 04:32:25 how about asm 04:33:04 It's kinda hard (for most people) to write optimized asm so they use high-level languages like C 04:33:31 also, did you know that libera webchat allows you to do 13this1301?01 04:33:42 well 04:33:46 c is also really fast 04:34:29 i guess the fastes one would be the one that reads a character, uses a switch statement to print w if the char is r, else print the char 04:36:05 go is a terrible programming language name tbh 04:36:26 its a commonly used word 04:36:42 Nah, this one also adds more stuff like stuttering 04:36:57 Also I love senpai and how it loses the connection to the IRC server in 2 seconds 04:37:25 https://github.com/Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu 04:38:29 I wonder what would happen if you trained an LLM but forced it to output uwufied text 04:39:50 Okay finally that impostor is gone 04:39:52 CometIIWW: uwuified llm? 04:39:53 I like how my nick is red tho 04:39:56 de67: yes 04:40:00 nah irs porpol 04:40:04 irs* 04:40:06 its* 04:40:13 Time zones bro 04:40:19 (this is a joke) 04:40:28 00dont00 04:40:56 00dont tell CometIIWW that i deleted both of bis drafts again just to mess with him :-)00 04:41:09 00oh wait00 04:41:19 00youre using a terminal client00 04:41:23 00so you can see this00 04:41:26 00cant you?00 04:41:26 de67: SIXS EVEN (yes) 04:41:32 00damn00 04:41:47 I also use dark mode anyway because light mode will make my laptop battery poop itself 04:41:59 Hm 04:42:01 i thought im tuff with white text 04:42:17 If they have the fastest uwufier in the west then what if I make the fastest uwufier in the east? 04:42:21 turns out dark mode exist 04:43:55 totally normal brainfuck code ,［.,］ 04:43:59 Rust only has x86-64 SIMD while C++ has std::simd for all 04:44:16 This means the fastest uwufier in the east will have less speed but be more portable 04:44:31 WHAT 04:44:40 IT'S std::experimental::simd NOT std::simd?!?!?! 04:44:41 WTF 04:45:12 Actually yk what maybe it's a good thing it's experimental 04:47:12 I hate Intel for disabling AVX-512 on Alder Lake processors 04:47:59 CometIIWW: if you dont like microcode updates, then dont install them? 04:48:12 I don't build laptops 04:48:51 I need massive throughput for uwufication and need it to be portable 04:49:35 CometIIWW: iirc you can survive without updating your laptop's firmware and not installing microcode packages 04:49:59 but you may stumble into some unexpected quirks :-) 04:50:19 Yeah, my other laptop got that treatment via water (see MY E KEY BROKE) 04:50:39 It kinda works but some things brick it so I have to drain the battery and charge it to get it back again 04:58:55 btw 04:59:11 in case the new topicality proposals pass 04:59:28 should we copy user edited langauges over here? 04:59:33 Yea sure 05:03:55 esomark 05:04:11 de67 is my favorite decentralized underground insurgency 05:04:13 esomark 05:04:20 esomark 05:04:23 esomark 05:04:25 esomark 05:04:27 esomark 05:04:28 esomark 05:04:29 esomark 05:04:31 esomark 05:04:33 esomark 05:04:33 esomark 05:04:34 esomark 05:04:34 esomark 05:04:34 esomark 05:04:34 esomark 05:04:46 de67: esomark says it has to eat righthere 05:04:48 esomark 05:04:50 esomark 05:04:52 esomark 05:04:53 esomark 05:04:58 AI! 05:04:59 esomark 05:05:01 esomark 05:05:07 de67: perl? 05:05:21 esomark 05:05:53 de67: https://github.com/Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu/issues/29 05:06:58 oh dear god 05:07:43 the h-howwows /satire 05:07:48 tbh !$'*-0369adgjmpsvy\_behknqtwz}"%(+.147:=@cfilorux[^adgjmpsvy| does look like perl code :3 05:08:07 Probably valid Perl too :3 /satire 05:09:49 I t-think youwu shouwd make an uwufier in C89 05:10:14 sure 05:10:15 le..e 05:10:30 lemme write a openbsd toaster impl in go first 05:10:40 Nice 05:10:48 le..e should be ane solang 05:10:49 esoalng 05:10:50 esolang 05:10:51 esolang 05:45:14 LLM fingerprinting 05:45:23 Could we turn that into Funge-98 fingerprints? 05:52:01 In my opinion C/C++ should've added `long long long` and `long long long long` and so on 05:55:41 i finished go impl 05:56:13 Nice 06:04:05 holy... 06:04:21 openbsd toaster is the 138th longest page on esowiki 06:05:09 Esomogging 06:05:40 ~67% of it is just the hello world example 06:06:06 Still esomogging 06:06:15 ik 06:06:26 but 20kb hello world os still insane 06:06:28 RSI1's page is 146 and BFFuck is 138 06:06:46 CLC-INTERCAL is 148 06:07:02 no one has outmogged minim yet 06:07:07 AVMEWAVFAOI is 145 06:07:32 I think it's impossible to esomog Minim now since I think edits that bring pages over 100k bytes are impossible 06:07:47 Idk go ask aadenboy since I think he tried to add something to 99 bottles of beer 06:08:38 Minim, W32 Titanium, and Sclipting are the top 3 esomogging languages 06:08:54 1st, 5th, and 6th place respectively 06:08:56 actualy 06:09:04 esomogginf minim is possible 06:09:12 Wait really? 06:09:19 though thatll make me #1 wanted criminal of esowiki 06:09:21 Oh wait that 1000000 byte edit you made :3 06:09:24 ye 06:10:05 Ragarja and Befunge are 4th and 5th place in the list of esomogging languages (11 and 12) 06:10:15 In total there are 66 users online :: 1 registered, 0 hidden and 65 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes) 06:10:17 Nope. is a runner-up at 6th (14) and it's a constant language 06:10:51 WTF??? In total there are 1327 users online :: 1 registered, 0 hidden and 1326 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes) 06:11:22 WHAT 06:13:17 I forgot ASTLang esomogs Bussin X 06:13:29 (Bussin + Bussin X, I wish I could delete that redirect) 06:13:46 It also esomogs brainfuck 06:13:58 I have a solution 06:14:03 Make a OISC 06:14:30 But the source is raw binary format, but the format is encoded with the chemical name for Titin (0) and the chemical name for PKZILLA (1) 06:14:36 And add a OTC program example 06:14:43 Kaboom now fizzie hates you and you esomog Minim 06:17:04 esomark: Do you mog fungot 06:17:14 esomark: How do you feel that you mog fungot? 06:26:33 C++26 my beloved 06:50:19 C++29? 06:50:39 hi 06:50:43