03:59:07 esomark 03:59:07 de67: 03:59:13 esomark 03:59:13 03:59:15 esomark 03:59:15 03:59:18 esomark 03:59:18 defined. ^t 03:59:20 esomark 03:59:20 03:59:22 esomark 03:59:22 esomark-ng: 03:59:25 esomark 03:59:25 03:59:27 esomark 03:59:27 updating 03:59:29 esomark 03:59:29 esomark-ng: 03:59:32 esomark 03:59:32 ^bf 08:32:15 hi guys 08:32:17 im bacc 08:32:30 is esomark a guy 08:32:30 available 08:33:05 PkmnQ: you think he is? 08:33:10 okay esomark seems to be two seconds in the past which is better than 1 minute and 41 seconds i think 08:33:10 candy 08:33:20 de67: idk you said "hi guys" when it's just me and esomark 08:33:20 s o 08:33:23 PkmnQ: have you seen the 67 vandal? 08:33:42 de67: no was that after I edited the fancy-looking O esolang 08:33:54 on esolanging wiki 08:34:27 is that esolanging's first vandal 08:34:37 yes 08:34:46 ive ran checkuser on the vandal 08:35:13 i may or may not email the ip address of the vandal with ais523 08:35:38 the purpose would be so that he runs checkuser on that ip to find users that share that ip 08:35:54 alrighty 08:36:15 i take it it's not anyone else on esolanging? 08:36:26 not anyone else 10:42:01 I saw that "67" vandal 10:42:44 I wonder why the hell someone would decide to replace pages with 67 10:42:46 hi FloppaDiskDrive 10:42:49 Helo de67 10:42:57 i sent that vandal's ip address to ais523 10:43:04 Nice 10:43:23 So ais523 can see who it is from esowiki or wikipedia? 10:43:54 Also spira's back with a new account (why?) and is speedrunning esolanging again 10:45:41 btw 10:45:44 i use senpai now 10:45:56 Nice 10:46:20 Btw how does it feel not being able to see quit messages (or am i stupid and can you enable that somewhere) 10:46:37 it feels okay 10:46:43 i can always see the userlist 10:47:21 anyway, moar good news: i proved that tsfm to be turing complete without completely losing my sanity 10:47:27 im just a lil bit crazier now 10:47:46 DAMN 10:48:44 weird crash 10:48:47 ok 10:49:49 Wth 10:49:52 ? 10:49:54 This 67 guy has been doing it for hours 10:50:02 (I didn't scroll down) 10:50:28 no? 10:50:55 he vandalized 1 page in 20:22, then vandalized the rest in only a few minutes starting from20:55 10:51:01 Oh 10:51:14 actually he created account in 20:22 10:51:18 s/he/they/ 10:51:26 s/he/they/ 10:51:36 s/6/7/67/extra/slash 10:51:41 nondeterministic sed?! 10:51:44 (/j) 10:52:25 de67: i was gonna try working on it on my own but it seeems there is no longer any need for that 10:53:10 PkmnQ: working on what? 10:53:14 ["spira is alive again" -- cleverxia]: This implies that either ais523, Cleverxia, or someone else killed Spira. and Spira. reincarnated themselves as Spira.. 10:53:38 de67: the schizophreniac from muhosransk 10:53:44 PkmnQ: oh 10:53:55 perhaps i should try ToggleSkip (i will not make progress because that's what happens with me and reversible languages) 10:54:04 FloppaDiskDrive: or maybe spira. just lost their password 10:54:17 or perhaps, someone's impersonating spira. for some unholy reason 10:54:34 DAMN 10:55:11 agh 10:55:15 welcome back :3 10:55:26 h-hewwo :3 (don't quote me) 10:55:31 i should check if esomark is still 2 seconds in the past 10:55:31 esomark: 10:55:35 three seconds this time 10:55:39 intriguing 10:55:51 esomark is stuck in a rip in space-time which means we will diverge timelines 10:55:51 10:56:15 FloppaDiskDrive: i will miss your sloplangs 10:56:21 what 10:56:41 de67: does FloppaDiskDrive have cancer 10:57:19 PkmnQ: Variant of brain cancer called "67 cancer" and "brainrot" 10:57:21 PkmnQ: we will diverge in timeline or smth 10:57:33 intriguing 10:57:44 They cause brain function decline if you give in 10:57:56 Also spira making 3 esolangs since their resurrection is insane 10:58:13 Spira will actually dethrone none1 by christmas at this rate 10:59:14 Idk if this is just me being paranoid but I think the esolanging community might be split into 2-5 parts 10:59:17 FloppaDislkDrive: dw ill try to shit out esolangs faster than spira 10:59:25 de67: Esolaxative :3 10:59:28 which parts? 10:59:41 I'd say what the parts are if I could put them into words 11:00:42 I think the way I'm wording it is probably gonna offend some people from all sides 11:00:58 ok 11:01:02 offend everyone then! 11:01:28 "it's not discrimination if you hate everyone equally" -- some random person I forgot who 11:01:41 ah, misanthropy! 11:01:43 I wish either esomark or anovabot had a quote/wisdom library 11:01:43 analysisofvarian: raiseafloppafan7: 11:02:07 curiosity killed the cat, but that doesnt matter since we are all dead and this is hell 11:02:09 FloppaDiskDrive: i've heard that quote many times from many people 11:02:42 I think it'd be self-centered if you hate everyone but yourself so if you hate yourself just as much as you hate everyone then I think it'd be equal 11:03:20 FloppaDiskDrive: this, of course, raises the case in which you hate yourself more than everyone else 11:03:31 ^addquote many people//it's not discrimination if you hate everyone equally 11:03:31 Unknown command. 11:03:32 raises the question about the case i mean 11:03:44 you see, all love and hate is relative 11:03:55 I think there's a name for that but I either forgot or don't know 11:04:07 if you love/hate everything equally, thats the same as feeling neutral towards everything 11:04:16 Hmm true... 11:04:30 "if everyone is super, no one is" - syndrome (i think) 11:05:01 But I guess the basis is the average person who probably doesn't hate everything that much 11:05:19 #esolanging is slowly turning into #philosophy or ##philosophy (idk the channel name) 11:05:30 prolly #philosophy 11:05:31 anything but esolanging :3 11:06:52 i might publish my interpreters for 23 and 96 early if i can find a place 11:07:27 PkmnQ: esolang forum 11:07:34 or codeberg 11:07:37 or github 11:07:40 or gitlab 11:07:59 de67: mayhaps 11:08:02 or you can self-host a git/gitlab/forgejo instance 11:08:41 raspberry pi when blueberry tau walks in 11:32:37 whar 11:33:14 My three braincells are locally known as the triple bakas 11:33:49 (the other 100 or so billion died) 11:37:33 FloppaDiskDrive: or did they? 11:46:46 I can feel something 11:48:51 I think the esolanging community will be split into three 11:49:12 Not tryna be the "THE END IS NEAR THE MAYAN CALENDAR SAID SO" guy but I feel like some tension will form 11:49:48 (use might instead of will then lmao) 11:50:19 pliz stop being vague 11:50:27 pliz say which three parts 11:51:05 DAMN 11:51:34 Tension in the air so tangible it clotheslined (right word?) PkmnQ's connection 11:52:08 oh no 11:52:14 i dont hace much time left 11:52:41 de67: I think the four parts could be "casual" esolangers, "slop" esolangers, a neutral side, and idk how to describe the fourth side without making them sound evil sorry 11:52:51 they are after me 11:52:54 I actually have no fucking idea what I am yapping about but I have a vague idea 11:53:21 pliz describe the forth side 11:53:29 if its hard to describe them as not evil 11:53:32 theyre prolly evil 11:53:51 The fourth side I'd say are people who are sick of seeing slop and off-topic languages get slopped everywhere and want something to be done about them 11:54:00 I have no other way of putting it into words 11:54:44 that doesnt sound evil actually 11:54:51 Yeah 11:55:04 I'm just bad at thinking things through before I get them out 11:55:11 who are "casual" esolangers btw? 11:55:27 de67: that's what i meant by "i'm just bad at thinking things through before i get them out" 11:55:39 I think a casual esolanger is 11:55:39 uh 11:55:52 you thought it throught pretty well 11:56:20 If I did then I wouldn't be having trouble describing the fundamental ideas 11:56:58 But I'd say a casual esolanger is someone who primarily makes either esolexicons or esolangs based on popular esolangs, like how I started (nonstraightforward lmao) 11:57:11 The fourth side'd be the opposite of that I'd say 11:57:22 FloppaDiskDrive: like how many people started (and still are going) 11:57:25 Although I think correlation =/= causation or something 11:57:29 de67: pretty much 11:57:56 i think that the casual team and neutral team should be merged 11:58:03 so that we get a cleaner spectrum: 11:58:09 slop--neutral--antislop 11:58:42 The problem is you can be on multiple sides of the spectrum at once 11:59:02 how can i make slop and still hate slop? 11:59:28 how can i hate slop and also be neutral? 11:59:29 de67: yours truly knows :3 11:59:42 how can i make slop and still be neutral?? 11:59:43 youws twuwy knows :3 (don't quote me) 12:00:18 I guess it depends on what you consider slop but I think we and the fourth side have very similar definitions on slop 12:01:44 maybe 12:03:01 I think the "many joke languages should be considered off-topic" thing is kinda vague if you're new, I think with our experience and context we can tell they're probably talking about shit like LLvIN (ai slop) or my stupid brainfuck file derivative joke thing but to a newcomer it might sound a bit hostile 12:03:17 I agree though that LLvIN should probably live somewhere else 12:08:23 I think limiting the maximum edit count per day to 20 edits is too restrictive 12:08:48 There might be legitimate reasons where you need to break that limit (e.g. sandbox?, talk pages, mass category rename) 12:09:17 i have an idea!!! 12:09:22 we should close esolang wiki 12:09:24 I think the limit is a bit extreme (I suggest handling shitposters on a case-by-case basis) but if there absolutely has to be then 100-200 12:09:26 de67: True!!! 12:09:35 Then shitposters have nowhere to go! 12:09:49 Just tell fizzie that Claude Fable found another vulnerability in PHP or something 12:10:07 (imagine if ais523 randomly pops in here) 12:10:23 (the real ais523, not Assembly) 12:10:25 i think i remember some people talking about wikis with some crazy restrictions like "you cant create/edit pages in main namespace without admin approval" 12:11:33 I honestly think something like that is a bit too restrictive for the esolang wiki 12:12:49 ik 12:13:00 it also defied the point of a wiki 12:20:03 should i make an another sloplang or make 2 more sloplangs? 12:21:16 Depends on you 12:21:24 Flip a 67 coin 12:21:32 youre right, i should bade 67 more sloplangs 12:21:42 Not what I was going for but if it makes you happy 12:22:11 Also I agree with Cleverxia's concern that having a maximum edit quota will discourage potential contributors 12:22:21 (somehow thought I spelled cleverxia wrong) 12:22:37 egenreally 12:22:47 we shouldnt add new restrictions to a wiki 12:22:52 thats the last thing we want 12:22:56 Yea 12:23:15 the problem here is that we need to distinguish whats worth to keep than whats not worth to keep\ 12:23:34 spira.'s crap is what we dont want to keep 12:24:06 but its hard to make a rule that distinguishes an esolang from slop 12:25:32 I'd say the quota solution isn't the way since obviously we want people making cool new stuff, so we need arbiters to decide what's cool and what is absolute bullshit slop that a cat projectile shat out 12:25:50 oh yea 12:25:53 arbiters! 12:26:10 that kinda reminds me of the deletion process in esolanging wiki 12:26:20 esolang wiki should have that too 12:26:33 (and on a side note, i think that esolang wiki should have more admins) 12:26:56 (the admins should be cherry picked by existing admins) 12:35:36 I will save us from the slopocalypse 12:37:03 Check out my new esolang 12:37:28 ive seen it 12:37:33 Two-finger salute? 12:37:36 Or the newer one? 12:37:36 ye 12:37:42 Nah look at the new draft :3 12:37:44 Trust me it's peak 12:37:47 It's peaks hit 12:37:50 ok 12:37:52 s/peaks hit/peak shit 12:38:11 "Explosive diarrhea" 12:38:16 already promising 12:38:17 Nice name right? 12:38:19 Very cute name :3 12:38:26 (it's not finished yet) 12:39:04 The idea is promising I promise you that 12:39:06 never make an esolang again 12:39:24 Fair enough 12:41:09 esomark: Is my new esolang good? 12:41:09 chimeraanova: 12:41:24 esomark was left speechless by the quality of my esolang BD 12:41:24 de67: isn't 12:41:30 I know esomark 12:41:30 12:41:37 esomark: You think it's good right? 12:41:37 12:41:51 esomark: Yes or no? 12:41:51 12:41:53 esomark: Yes or no? 12:41:53 fungot67 12:41:57 fuck 12:42:04 I will give you explosive diarrhea then 12:42:15 Even though you're a robot and robots can't have explosive diarrhea 12:42:29 Actually wait, esomark's written in C so explosive diarrhea would probably be a severe memory leak 12:42:29 12:42:48 (why the fuck am I talking about robot diarrhea) 12:42:53 cuz 12:43:47 I think that's a new sentence for this month 12:44:00 Can't wait for the stupid fucking clankers to steal it from me :3 12:44:11 (as in the lms) 12:44:14 s/lm/llm 12:44:41 i am making a new esolang m=byt im bkuubf okease helo me we are all dead and thi sis usgekkk 12:45:05 Interesting name 12:45:14 I think that name mogs all other esolang names 12:45:20 Even brainfuck and malbolge UNSHACKLED 12:45:28 U N S H A C K L E D 12:46:26 I think this is just immutable brainfuck but with explosive diarrhea 12:46:32 Fuck originality 12:47:56 no 12:47:57 no 12:47:58 no 12:47:58 no 12:47:59 no 12:48:30 ? 12:48:38 nuffin :3 12:48:41 :3 12:49:27 THE SIX SEVEN THING IS STILL THERE LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 12:50:03 Can't believe halungtiyang died for THIS 12:50:12 where 12:50:20 Explosive diarrhea :3 12:50:23 damn 12:51:04 I can't take this anymore this sucks I'll make a 12:51:37 a what? 12:51:47 a horse??? 12:52:54 Pooping counter is real now 12:53:16 ... 12:53:20 sowwy 12:53:22 s/w/r 12:53:27 s/\.\.\./. . ./ 12:53:32 s/ / 12:53:46 s/nondeterministic/sed/rules 12:54:10 ugh 12:54:20 i need to come up with syntax for MY ESOLANG 12:54:24 that is so much work 12:54:31 markfan8901 was right 12:54:45 ? 12:57:59 fungot 12:58:18 evil(de67) = false 12:58:23 evil(fungot) = true 12:58:34 evil(PkmnQ) = probably? probably not? 12:58:54 evil(esomark) =RUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNR 12:58:54 chimeraanova: 12:58:58 FloppaDiskDrive: mayhaps 12:59:22 so does that mean that im evil and fungot is not evil? 12:59:36 mybe 12:59:37 maybe 13:00:02 esomark: do you know blugeg;eugelguelgalgabgagbellgeganblububluaegablgbalgbeugalgbaguglabgauglbagualegbaglebgalgbaeugalggulgguglgulgglga? 13:00:02 13:00:46 s/blugeg;eugelguelgalgabgagbellgeganblububluaegablgbalgbeugalgbaguglabgauglbagualegbaglebgalgbaeugalggulgguglgulgglga/beguulalaallaugagugluglgulwgggluaglgugalguglgagalglaglaglaugalgauglsgblugalbauglbgeulaglagllguglguglugbgublaglgkguagnaguglggiglgbeglualggugluglgblguglblguaglbgaula 13:00:57 s/beguulalaallaugagugluglgulwgggluaglgugalguglgagalglaglaglaugalgauglsgblugalbauglbgeulaglagllguglguglugbgublaglgkguagnaguglggiglgbeglualggugluglgblguglblguaglbgaula/belguegallaga 13:01:07 s/belguegallaga/belgua 13:01:14 s/belgua/esomark 13:01:14 ok 13:01:18 s/esomark/beglua 13:01:18 pkmnq: 13:01:19 what 13:01:27 s/esomark/beglua 13:01:27 00000000 13:01:33 s/beglua/beluga 13:01:36 finally 13:03:34 Should we steal the esowiki categories? 13:04:11 only if that makes sense 13:04:36 Should we steal joke languages, cjk, implemented, compclass, etc.? 13:05:39 sure 13:05:45 On it 13:10:42 [[11Category:Thematic]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=784 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+31) * Created page with "Languages based around a theme." 13:11:16 [[11Category:CJK]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=785 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+90) * Created page with "Languages using CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) characters in their programs' source code." 13:12:54 [[11Category:Golfing languages]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=786 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+83) * Created page with "Languages optimized for [[code golf]], or in short designed to have small programs." 13:18:07 [[11Category:Graphical output]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=787 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+72) * Created page with "Languages with the ability to output graphics such as images and videos." 13:18:29 [[11Category:Audio output]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=788 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+33) * Created page with "Languages which can output audio." 13:18:45 [[11Category:No IO]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=789 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+47) * Created page with "Languages with no input or output capabilities." 13:20:11 [[11Category:Output only]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=790 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+56) * Created page with "Languages which can only output data but not input data." 13:20:51 [[11Category:Input only]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=791 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+51) * Created page with "Languages which can read input but not output data." 13:21:28 [[11Category:Markup languages]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=792 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+92) * Created page with "Languages used primarily to describe the structure of a document. Think of HTML for example." 13:21:45 that's a strange order to do them in 13:22:52 i love how these are properly capitalized unlike their esolang wiki counterparts 13:23:32 "[[Category:Audio Output]]" ew no thanks 13:23:43 [[Category:Audio output]] is so much better 13:24:24 real 13:24:26 [[11Category:Implemented]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=793 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+57) * Created page with "Languages which have had an implementation made for them." 13:24:51 [[11Category:Unimplemented]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=794 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+65) * Created page with "Languages which have not had an implementation made for them yet." 13:25:05 [[Category:Infinite stack]] is genuinely hilarious 13:26:07 Since the esolanging wiki is about esolanging, we shouldn't have data structures right? 13:33:31 [[11Category:Functional paradigm]] 12https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=795 07N * AnalysisOfVariance * (+138) * Created page with "Languages of the functional paradigm. [[Category:Declarative paradigm]]