00:17:22 Good morning esomark 00:17:22 00:41:04 Psi basis has PsiK' already and using the sage bird feels too easy so I think I'll stick with the phoenix 00:43:40 I think I'll make an incomplete basis then 00:52:46 Fortunately Crazy J has compiled a list of combinators I can try to recreate with the new basis 00:55:36 crap, psi doesn't reorder the terms 01:04:17 I think IΨ might not be TC since it can't reorder stuff 01:23:50 At the very least it'd be annoying to work with 02:09:35 [[Draft:Dimethylmercury]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1064 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+10) * /* Psychopath (Candidate 7) */ 02:55:39 I think I found a nice way to be able to generate random expressions 02:56:11 I'm also using postfix notation now and the neat thing is that if you wanna generate an expression of a random length then you can start generating from the back 02:57:22 ...or I can just use Blashyrkh's enumerator and convert from prefix to postfix notation 03:02:40 I think a big part of a Turing-complete aristocratic basis is to have somewhere to hide the garbage you couldn't cancel, like Crazy J and its EOF 03:04:29 [[Main Page]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1065 * Dragoneater67 * (+68) * add edit count 03:05:39 Our decentralized underground insurgency has arrived 03:05:51 hi guys 03:05:58 im bacc 03:06:01 Hello de67_, our decentralized underground insurgency 03:06:13 to realize that PsiK' 03:06:14 sucks 03:06:18 sucks badly 03:06:21 and sucks alot 03:06:39 i shall make more combinatory crap 03:06:44 until i find combinatory gem 03:07:40 Imagine if PsiK' is a complete basis but all of the expressions are of length 20 or greater 03:08:23 KaleidoscopeFive: I combinator has already been found 03:08:43 but its the only meaningful expression with length <=13 03:08:47 Oops I meant expressions for the other combinators other than I and I* 03:08:52 hm 03:09:09 tho theres not much hope for PsiK' 03:09:24 the psi combinator is hard to work with 03:09:37 I agree tbh phi is way more powerful 03:10:06 but like 03:10:12 phi is just S with an extra step 03:10:36 unless you choose a basis that preventd you from making I easily 03:10:51 de67_: Aristocratic basis! 03:11:01 (obviously you need I but the others are gonna be tricky) 03:11:44 KaleidoscopeFive: i have a basis for you 03:11:46 I and tau 03:12:20 tau? 03:12:27 tau x y z w v = x (y z (y v w)) 03:12:51 i just made it up btw 03:13:47 its like phi in the sense that tau I = J similary to how phi I = S 03:13:56 here you would want to not have I 03:14:06 and choose some other linear combinator 03:14:23 also you need a place to hide the garbage 03:15:01 I wonder if it's possible to make "genetically-modified combinators" which are just supercharged versions of the original combinators designed to be more powerful 03:15:12 (idiot it IS possible it's just very hard) 03:15:36 phi is powerful if you havei 03:15:48 tau is also powrrful if you have i 03:16:22 i think youre smarter than you present yourself to be 03:16:36 I think either you or PkmnQ said that Kф is still a complete basis 03:16:46 Phi is simply too powerful and I guess so is Tau 03:16:58 KaleidoscopeFive: i said that 03:18:06 esomark: `````j``j`j`j```j``j`jiii``jiii``jiiji`````j`j`j`j``jiii``jiji``j`jii 03:39:13 basises* 03:39:42 YAY THE MASS MURDERER IS BACK! 03:39:47 s/MURDERER/KIDNAPPER 03:39:48 wait... 03:43:44 ok 03:43:52 lets start withBTKW 03:44:58 nvm 03:45:10 but that gave me a funny thought 03:45:48 if we beat up BCKW we get I*TKM which is its crippled version 03:45:56 lmao 03:46:25 question is 03:46:29 can it do stuff? 03:46:45 I think someone did that to the part of my brain responsible for time and risk management /DimethylmercuryCandidate6 03:46:47 Probably 03:47:31 I just got a funny idea 03:47:40 Brb 20 minutes 03:47:47 ok 03:52:31 alr 03:52:40 i have some dumb combinator ideas 03:52:43 firstly 03:53:14 🐈xyz=xyyzz 03:55:29 🍰xyzw=y(xzw) 03:58:45 ☺xyz=zy 04:07:46 hm no 04:15:16 hm 04:15:23 can i get an I combinator out of these? 04:23:24 im replacing ☺ with 😊 04:24:13 😊xyz=yx 04:26:16 [[Draft:Psychopath]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1068 N * KaleidoscopeFive * (+1169) * Created page with " '''Psychopath''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] by [[User:KaleidoscopeFive]] in [[:Category:2026|2026]] birthed from his Dimethylmercury experiments. The goal of Psychopath is to make an aristocratic basis with Ψ (Psi). == Basis == Psychopath cu 04:26:49 [[User:KaleidoscopeFive]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1069 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+73) * /* drafts */ 04:27:15 six seven 04:27:44 boeing 7SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIXSEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN 04:28:01 KaleidoscopeFive: 9/11 joke in the big '26 04:28:12 i wuv it :3 04:28:29 wht nine evlevn mjoke 04:28:30 btw what do you think abt my stupid combinators? 04:28:34 that was boing 767 04:29:04 I think your combinators are pretty Σ 04:31:19 i identify as a salmon 04:31:36 I just realized instead of trying to guess or brute-force expressions I should just use abstraction elimination 04:33:59 Üxyz=xyyzz 04:35:02 Äxyzw=y(xzw) 04:35:09 now i meed the third combinator 04:35:46 hm 04:36:30 Öxyz=yx 04:36:35 and i may also add I 04:36:59 but im not sure about that 04:37:35 yk what 04:37:39 im making some xhanges 04:37:48 Öxyz=zy 04:39:01 SII(SII) 04:39:33 KaleidoscopeFive: ? 04:40:02 Freaky combinator expression in SK(I) 04:40:18 KaleidoscopeFive: thats just omega 04:40:24 oh 04:40:32 I thought it was I somehow 04:40:39 ... 04:41:07 I see 04:41:41 im not sure which version of Ö i shall choose 04:43:07 i guess il use the former 04:43:19 hm 04:43:27 the latter is more manageable actually 04:44:07 I see what you mean by the kinda kestrel/kite cretures from 2 days ago or yesterday 04:45:37 ÖÖxy=yx 04:45:43 so i have T now 04:45:59 dunno how to extract the cancellative combinator from it 04:46:32 hhi :D 04:46:38 hi yayimheretoo 04:46:57 de67_: hi! 04:47:01 have you seen KaleidoscopeFive's new draft? 04:47:15 de67_ nope! 04:47:20 link it pls lul 04:47:52 https://esolanging.wiki/wiki/Psychopath 04:48:12 https://esolanging.wiki/wiki/Draft:Psychopath 04:49:01 cool 04:55:01 Öxyzw=ywz 04:55:03 alr 04:55:07 if i add K' 04:55:11 this basis will be complete 04:55:28 K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K'K' 04:55:38 ÄÖÜK' 04:55:59 jeeeez 04:56:02 lmao 04:56:02 some derivations: 04:56:27 Wxy=Ä(K'K')xy 04:56:54 Cxyz=ÖÖxyz 04:57:26 wait 04:57:29 my W is wronf 04:57:46 Wxy=Ü(K'K')xy 04:58:20 B=Ä(K'K')xyz 04:59:38 Kxy=ÖÖK'xy 05:00:17 eh 05:00:30 ÄÖÜK' is kinda boring 05:06:55 [[Draft:Psychopath]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1070 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+454) 05:07:20 ∂ = ΣÑ(ÑÑÑÑ)(ÑÑÑÑ)x = x (x I) 05:07:21 ΣÑgxy = (g x y) (g y x) 05:07:21 Ø = ΣÑ∂xy = (∂ x y) (∂ y x) = ((x (x I)) y) ((y (y I)) x) 05:07:28 idkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 05:08:03 [[Draft:..CxSab//Qq]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1071 N * Yayimhere * (+1) * just creating the page so I dont procrastinate 05:13:14 what a name 05:13:40 I have a vision for how it's pronounced but I'll wait for official confirmation 05:13:53 KaleidoscopeFive: six seven? 05:14:45 Yk The Church by Blashyrk right 05:14:53 What if we only use six and seven? 05:15:51 *blashyrkh 05:16:35 Psi is incredibly annoying to work with tbh 05:23:38 2.24 gigabytes of combinator expressions lmao 05:25:29 WHY DOES HTAT HAPPEN 05:37:46 Woah there's an IJ expression for theta 05:54:56 7666666666666666666666666666666666666666 05:54:57 \ 06:02:44 te 06:04:29 tau 06:04:57 Psi is very annoying to work with 06:06:58 KaleidoscopeFive: i regret using psi 06:07:34 hm 06:07:38 Same 06:07:50 could ÊTW**K' basis work 06:07:58 If I wasn't LazyK I'd go into psichosis 06:08:01 i mean, its konds of an insane base 06:08:05 de67_: bald 06:08:24 Holy crap W** is insane 06:08:39 I think that could work 06:08:57 [[Draft:Psychopath]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1072 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+225) * /* Abstraction elimination rules */ screw psi I'm using phi instead 06:10:38 esolangingbot: gave up 06:11:01 ok 06:11:40 skibidi 06:13:02 Btw if anyone asks about my esofish implementation I quit before even implementing 6 06:21:11 what do yall think of brainfuck minesweeper 06:22:23 KaleidoscopeFive: havent looked at it 06:22:27 might be interesting 06:22:46 making a complete system while keeping it interesting is hard 06:24:35 [[Draft:1-866-025-4037]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1073 * Dragoneater67 * (+437) * /* Overview */ candidate 3 06:24:46 candidate 3 is promising 06:28:51 lemme make it crazier 06:41:33 do i replace Ê with Q_1 or D_2? 06:42:37 i guess d_2 06:48:53 [[Draft:1-866-025-4037]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1074 * Dragoneater67 * (+566) * /* Candidate 3 */ candidate 4 06:53:28 [[Draft:1-866-025-4037]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1075 * Dragoneater67 * (+139) * /* Candidate 4 */ add kestrel; this is complete!!! 06:53:52 i think that candidate 4 can be made a lil bit more annoying 06:59:17 KaleidoscopeFive: what do you think about candidate 4? 07:05:02 for candidate 5 im aiming for something more tarpit-y 07:21:42 [[Draft:1-866-025-4037]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1076 * Dragoneater67 * (+581) * /* Candidate 4 */ add candidate 5 07:22:03 [[Draft:1-866-025-4037]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1077 M * Dragoneater67 * (0) * /* Candidate 4 */ whoops 07:24:52 hi 07:24:58 kaleidoscopefive how ya doing? 07:28:55 hu yayimheretoo 07:28:59 hi 07:29:04 hi de67 07:29:07 de67_ 07:29:10 im stupid 07:29:11 anyway, i found 2 complete basises 07:29:19 yay! 07:29:20 K'OPQ 07:29:22 and 07:29:47 D2K'R**W** 07:29:54 im still dying on Sigma Ñ M2... I might replace M2 ik 07:30:00 de67_ thats one hell of two basis's 07:30:16 im working on a new complete bassi 07:30:18 basis* 07:30:19 nice 07:30:56 might replace M2 with µ, µxy = K 07:31:01 so its. Sigma Ñ and µ 07:31:59 de67_ ddoes that seems morer or less interesting 07:32:03 actually no its less interesting 07:32:22 what is R**? 07:33:08 R**xyzwv=xywvz 07:33:22 god thats cursed 07:33:24 I love it 07:33:32 im replacing M2 with R** 07:33:33 lmao 07:34:48 i kinda gave up on the sigma ñ m2 thing 07:35:01 lol 07:35:05 im not giving up! 07:39:10 R**(ÑÑÑÑ)(ÑÑÑÑ) = Finch 07:39:56 btw 07:40:17 how should i do io in combinatory esolangs? 07:40:47 I usually do smth like theres a character which gets replaced with the initial user input 07:41:29 can i just apply user input as church numerals? 07:41:37 maybe idk 07:42:46 ok 07:43:11 ΣÑFxyw = (F x y) (F y x) w = (F y x) y x w = y x y x w 07:43:13 thats fun 07:44:14 wait... 07:44:15 no dammit 07:44:18 not quite 07:44:33 oh well 07:47:41 R**Fxyzw = Fxwzy = zwxy 07:54:52 fuck 07:54:58 ive been doing R** wrong lmao 07:55:12 yayimheretoo: oh wow 07:55:19 uh 07:55:24 disregard my message 07:55:30 dunno why i said that :3 07:55:45 de67_: I thought it was R**xyzwv = xyvwz just reversing the last three 07:56:05 Rxyz=yzx 07:56:14 thats not reversing 07:56:18 ik 07:56:22 I THOUGHT it was 07:56:32 yayimheretoo: you nade V** then :3 07:56:42 de67_: yay 07:56:59 actually 07:57:04 thats F** not V** 07:57:08 I KNEW it 07:57:19 what does * do anyways? add an extra argument at the start? 08:10:48 ye 08:11:08 cool 08:37:04 [[User:Yayimhere/Drafts]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1078 * Yayimhere * (+208) * FINALLY. It. Is. Done. 08:44:12 [[User:Yayimhere/Drafts]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1079 * Yayimhere * (-5) 09:06:26 [[Draft:Plutonium hexafluoride]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1080 N * KaleidoscopeFive * (+1452) * Created page with " '''Plutonium hexafluoride''' (for a lack of a better name) is an [[esolang]] by [[User:KaleidoscopeFive]] in [[:Category:2026|2026]]. It is a [[combinatory logic]] language based on [[Lazy K]] and [[Crazy J]] with the main idea being to use the 09:06:38 im very happy 09:06:43 im finally done with this damned language 09:06:44 lmao 09:06:50 bitch ienai? 09:06:52 just need to describe it 09:07:00 kaleidoscopefive: my solution to it yes 09:07:08 bitch, Ienai is probably never completed 09:07:16 congrats 09:07:37 de67_: thanks! 09:07:49 ok it seems like we are NOT out of the combinatory era 09:07:55 wonder how long it will last 09:08:04 lol 09:08:15 this language is kinda an addition to the thing 09:08:24 yayimheretoo: which one 09:08:42 bitch ienai or plutonium hexafluoride 09:08:52 my solution to bitch ienai de67_ 09:08:55 its called NNice bte 09:08:59 pronounced N N Ice 09:09:28 what does it have to do with ice 09:09:37 not much 09:09:41 yayimheretoo: oh 09:09:52 I named it like you named artppeice, just found a tye 09:09:56 *typo 09:10:23 hn 09:10:25 hm 09:10:39 combinatoryslop when 09:10:49 lol 09:11:26 de67_: skm2 calculus 09:13:15 should i make an esolang based on candidate 4 09:13:36 ? 09:13:41 sure 09:13:43 why not? 09:13:50 okey dokey 09:14:06 but if that results in a fatal injury, itll be 100% your fault 09:14:13 great 09:14:19 i GLADLY take that 09:21:19 i love shitting out combinatoryslop 09:22:52 [[Draft:Plutonium hexafluoride]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1081 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+441) * maybe I makes this too trivial 09:29:48 nooooooooo 09:37:26 67 09:37:33 yaaaaay 09:38:26 [[Draft:Plutonium hexafluoride]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1082 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+227) * converse starling 09:38:45 [[User:Yayimhere/Drafts]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1083 * Yayimhere * (+3) 09:38:59 ill read on crazy j 09:39:08 to learn about abstraction rules 09:39:20 abstraction elimination? 09:39:22 maybe thatll help me with PsiK' and stuff 09:39:25 KaleidoscopeFive: ye 09:45:53 [[User:KaleidoscopeFive]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1084 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+68) * /* drafts */ 09:49:55 I think J has an advantage over ф, which is that J re-orders [see xy(xwz)] unlike ф [see x(yw)(zw)] 09:50:17 This is why PuF_6 has T 09:55:43 G is better than T here so I eliminate T 09:56:03 It also makes golfing more annoying 09:59:39 Nvm I confused phi for psi lmao 10:06:46 [[Draft:Plutonium hexafluoride]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1085 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+513) * Use IGф basis instead 10:07:19 Brb 30 minutes 10:17:22 hi guys 10:17:24 im bacc 10:17:34 hi de67! 10:17:45 btw would you maybe try coding smth in NNice when its done? 10:17:57 sure 10:18:05 thanks! 10:19:55 whar 10:20:10 huh 10:30:58 lemme disconnect for a sec 10:49:29 alrighty 10:49:30 im bacc 10:51:44 bai 10:52:29 cya 10:55:39 [[NNice]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1086 N * Yayimhere * (+6107) * still WIP but oh well 10:56:31 Huh, never knew you could commit war crimes with pressure cookers. 11:03:56 back again 11:15:08 Quote 11:15:16 quote what 11:15:31 i managed to set up the stupid bouncer 11:15:36 soju? 11:15:39 yes!!! 11:15:44 Hell yeah 11:15:52 wanna register? 11:15:55 ? 11:16:04 on my owosome bouncer? 11:16:39 Is it on the esolanging wiki servesr 11:16:43 vserve 11:16:45 re 11:16:56 yes 11:21:59 Sisxvejne 11:22:39 is that a yes 11:24:02 √-1'm 2 Lazy K 2 {} ^ uh o -> | => o| => o <- | 11:24:24 (I think the dimethylmercury experiments are getting to my head like real dimethylmercury) 11:24:53 experiment more! 11:25:37 I 11:25:39 btw, which basis is more based? D2K'R**W** or K'OQR 11:25:59 D2K'R**W** looks really funny but K'OQR looks funny too 11:28:44 ф 11:28:47 me when ф 11:29:10 фффффффффффффф 11:29:22 (i hope that doesnt mean anything offensive) 11:29:35 oh god 11:29:45 it allows me to connect from multiple devided 11:29:48 devices 11:30:09 This means you can use IRC from your OpenBSD toaster while using it on your laptop 11:30:12 im on my phone and laptop both at the same time 11:30:20 Nice 11:30:32 also look at this: 11:30:39 /ban everyone 11:30:52 wait, what if i do smth 11:32:05 i ban everyone :3 11:32:38 ф -> cyrillic -> that one object show I never watched but have seen one character of and it's a cyrillic letter -> kazakh language -> kazakhstan -> de67 -> sxixsev n six seven -> poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison poison 11:33:07 how are these concepts even remotely related?? 11:33:14 ф is Cyrillic (I think) 11:33:32 There is an object show (I think it's Russian) and I think there was a Cyrillic character character in there 11:33:39 Kazakh language uses Cyrillic (I think) 11:33:49 Kazakh language is from Kazakhstan (I think) 11:33:57 You are from kazakhstan (I think) 11:33:59 six seven 11:34:01 and uhh 11:34:03 poison 11:34:08 make sense 11:34:14 sense 11:34:28 i crawled into a skibidi toilet and started singing skibidi dop dop yes yes yes 11:34:39 then i got kicked out of the public bathroom 11:34:56 interesting 11:35:25 i need to produce more sloplangs 11:35:28 or else i die 11:35:33 and go to jail 11:35:43 steal spiras ideas they made like 5 languages per 4 hours 11:35:51 damn 11:35:59 but spira. is dead 11:36:17 neapolitan is dead but that didn't stop some people 11:36:24 same with cesium salad 11:36:42 also i accidentally found your home address and accidentally lauched a nuclear missile at it 11:36:46 sowwy :3 11:36:52 oh shit 11:37:06 whats a neapolitan 11:37:07 well that wont be healthy :< 11:37:10