00:46:13 [[User talk:67 isnt funny]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1104 N * KaleidoscopeFive * (+528) * Created page with "Just curious what do you think of our decentralized underground insurgency, [[User:Dragoneater67|Dragoneatersix seven]] ~~~~" 00:46:36 what an edit to start the day with 00:59:48 cookie 00:59:48 candy 00:59:49 candy 00:59:50 chocolate 00:59:51 candy 00:59:51 candy 00:59:52 candy 00:59:53 cookie 00:59:54 candy 00:59:54 candy 00:59:55 chocolate 01:00:07 chocolate! 01:01:14 candy 01:01:17 chocolate 01:03:55 candy 01:03:56 candy 01:03:56 candy 01:03:58 cookie 01:03:58 candy 01:03:59 candy 01:04:00 chocolate 01:04:01 candy 01:04:01 candy 01:04:02 candy 01:04:03 cookie 01:04:04 candy 01:04:04 candy 01:04:06 chocolate 01:04:10 chocolate! 01:05:14 Candy 01:05:16 Cookie 01:05:18 Chocolate 01:05:18 Chocolate 01:05:20 Candy 01:05:21 Cookie 01:05:23 Chocolate 01:05:23 Chocolate 01:05:25 candy 01:05:26 candy 01:05:27 candy 01:05:28 cookie 01:05:28 candy 01:05:29 candy 01:05:31 Chocolate 01:05:32 candy 01:05:32 candy 01:05:32 candy 01:05:33 Cookie 01:05:34 candy 01:05:47 Chocolate 01:06:26 Chocolate 01:16:43 I haven't made a sloplang in days 01:45:21 Candy 01:45:22 Candy 01:45:23 Candy 01:45:24 Cookie 01:45:25 Candy 01:45:25 Candy 01:45:28 Chocolate 01:45:28 Chocolate 01:45:30 ah 01:45:44 Candy 01:45:44 Candy 01:45:45 Candy 01:45:46 Cookie 01:45:47 Candy 01:45:47 Candy 01:45:48 Chocolate 01:45:49 Candy 01:45:50 Candy 01:45:51 Candy 01:45:52 Cookie 01:45:52 Candy 01:45:53 Candy 01:45:54 Chocolate 01:46:02 Chocolate 01:47:03 Candy 01:47:06 Cookie 01:47:07 Chocolate 01:47:07 Chocolate 01:47:09 Candy 01:47:10 Cookie 01:47:12 Chocolate 01:47:13 Chocolate 01:47:20 Candy Candy Candy Cookie Candy Candy Chocolate 01:47:24 Candy Candy Candy Cookie Candy Candy Chocolate 01:47:33 [can't do this part] 01:47:36 Chocolate 01:48:14 Chocolate 01:53:01 Candy 01:53:01 Candy 01:53:02 Candy 01:53:03 Cookie 01:53:04 Candy 01:53:04 Candy 01:53:05 Chocolate 01:53:06 Candy 01:53:07 Candy 01:53:08 Candy 01:53:09 Cookie 01:53:09 Candy 01:53:10 Candy 01:53:11 Chocolate 01:53:13 Candy 01:53:13 Candy 01:53:14 Candy 01:54:05 Candy Candy Cookie 02:31:34 candy 02:37:40 anyway, ESOLANGS 02:39:59 anti-golfing language 02:40:12 is this name good 02:40:29 lan-lutia egangingfog (anagram of anti-golfing language) 02:45:16 [[Special:Log/move]] move * KaleidoscopeFive moved [[Draft:Formaldehyde]] to [[Draft:Tetravinyltetramethylcyclotetrasiloxane]]: taking the name "Formaldehyde" for a non-esolang project 02:45:17 [[Special:Log/delete]] * KaleidoscopeFive deleted page [[Draft:Tetravinyltetramethylcyclotetrasiloxane]] (Deleted to make way for move from "[[Draft:Formaldehyde]]") 04:49:30 there is no escape from eternal damnation 04:58:44 im finding, as im proving NNice solves Bitch, Ienai, it needs some modificiations 04:58:48 but not many, really 05:04:27 for example, I found out π(X,Y) is very useful for smmth very interesting 05:16:10 de67: NNice is fully complete, proof and everything 05:16:13 wanna try n code smth now? 05:16:22 https://esolangs.org/wiki/NNice 05:32:56 yayinheretoo: sure 05:57:23 hi again 06:07:58 its 6:07 am utc 06:11:46 esomark 06:11:46 06:11:52 esomark 06:11:52 lol esomark on 06:12:03 pgmesomarkoncracklang /ref 06:12:03 chimeraanova: (for now) 06:12:33 esomark has 7 letters so we need a bot with 6 letters 06:12:33 06:12:38 i know right great idea 06:12:42 right esomarker 06:12:42 chimeraanova: 06:12:46 esomark 06:12:46 lmao) 06:12:55 esomark thinks it's a great idea 06:12:55 06:15:47 KaleidoscopeFive: does fungot count 06:17:08 PkmnQ: i think that the K'OQR basis that i invented is incomplete 06:17:29 sure 06:17:34 the W combinator is wrong 06:17:34 but the problem is fungot is elsewhere 06:17:40 its actually the L combinator 06:17:53 KaleidoscopeFive: we had fungot67 06:18:18 de67: fungot67 has 8 characters 06:18:38 I guess you could say it has 6 letters (we love loopholes) 06:18:50 I mean characters so esomark has 7 characters 06:18:50 06:18:56 We need a bot with a 6-character name 06:19:10 whatabout sadgot 06:19:24 sad golfer turture? 06:19:32 s/tur/tor 06:19:35 its fungot but not fun 06:20:04 KaleidoscopeFive: turture sounds a lot like turtle torture, speaking of turtle, truttle1 mention 06:20:12 True 06:20:29 I wonder if they are dragons or not 06:20:38 (I know for sure at least one of them is) 06:20:44 truttleverse has some dragons 06:20:50 de67_: which other combinators have you found so far other than L 06:21:28 PkmnQ: pretty much everything except W, S 06:21:42 de67_: but which specifically 06:22:59 B-G, K-R, T-V, I*-V** 06:23:42 notably H, J, S, phi, psi, iota, omega, theta and most importantly W are missing 06:23:57 i havent found any constructiond 06:24:05 and i suspect that its impossible 06:24:20 (wouldn't omega just be MM (assuming you have M)) 06:24:35 oh ye 06:24:47 i do have M 06:25:19 let's see, i think i remember To Mock a Mockingbird mentioned some construction for theta using L 06:25:26 i'll have to check what exactly it is though 06:25:38 no wait you have U so it's just UU 06:26:04 so just H, J, S, phi, psi, and iota now 06:26:17 oh wait 06:26:19 hm 06:26:27 i dont think i ha e U 06:26:42 but i could try constructing it 06:26:53 (i take it you also don't have W* or W** otherwise you'd have W, but you have the rest of the "x removed" family) 06:27:09 (or W' for that matter, since then W is just CW') 06:29:59 ah there's the expression for theta i was thinking of earlier, it's LO(LO) 06:31:07 de67_: oh it also states W' is just BMR and W is C(BMR) 06:31:21 wha 06:31:34 thank you!!! 06:31:39 yeah i just checked To Mock a Mockingbird and it was just there 06:31:48 thanks Raymond Smullyan 06:32:45 lemme trace: W'xy=BMRxy=M(Rx)y=Rx(Rx)y=Rxyx=yxx 06:33:03 and since W=CW' 06:33:24 W=C(BMR)xy 06:56:39 btw de67_ if curious on NNice, have any questions, ask me:) 06:56:49 yayimheretoo: oki doki 07:09:23 k;muhn89ikr5r-jpujhbsd`erioyg[8;pk 07:09:31 [phbvbhjm gcg vjnkgw13 ezfr78 xdzQASDSGJKL;''/.| 07:09:46 'KM NBVVUHJB NXCHJKLTTHT 07:11:35 a 07:11:51 esomark 07:11:51 07:11:55 esomark 07:11:55 07:11:57 esomark 07:11:57 tf 07:12:00 wow 07:12:01 ? 07:12:10 some activity here 07:12:18 uwu 07:12:27 KaleidoscopeFive: anyway 07:12:29 tha was ,y car not me (the uwu 07:12:30 ) 07:12:41 KaleidoscopeFive: wha 07:12:44 anyway 07:12:49 i have a dumb idea 07:12:55 what if we make a functiona language 07:13:01 but 2d!!! 07:14:11 de67_ ive done that at some pint 07:14:17 bbut go ahead 07:14:18 yayimheretoo: wow 07:21:33 ill first make a stack based language 07:21:52 actually 07:22:07 im gonna combine both the 2d thing and the stack thing 07:23:56 nvm 07:24:12 hm 07:24:27 maybe i can combine the ideas 07:26:02 if i do that it nay need to be pattern-basef 07:26:23 pattern based = great 07:26:25 so do it 07:28:06 pattern based = hard to mass produce 07:36:24 [[Draft:A family of 5 stuck in a perpetual time loop of agony]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1106 N * Dragoneater67 * (+642) * all i have rn is this 07:47:33 I'm gonna pull a pro gamer move to counter spira 07:47:42 But it will cost me my digital footprint 07:47:50 oh...? 07:48:16 ? 07:48:18 also whats wrong with spira Iont get it 07:48:37 kaleidoscopefive: i was just like "oh, what move?" 07:48:40 partially an inside joke and mostly de67_ not being a fan of spira creating 67 3-command unusable languages per day 07:48:42 the move is uhh 07:48:53 ah ok 07:48:55 Also I just remembered the way to do it is to open source 07:49:05 Yk how tm has lots of dialects? 07:49:11 nvm 07:49:17 that'd have to be on esolanging wiki 07:49:45 does anyone have any ideas on what i could do with my new draft? 07:50:07 [[Draft:Owo u want more slop? ill give you your sloplangs uwu~ :3]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1107 N * KaleidoscopeFive * (+332) * warming up the factory 07:50:15 de67_ I can take a look if u wanna 07:50:22 yayimheretoo: sure 07:50:28 de67_: link? 07:50:35 https://esolanging.wiki/wiki/Draft:A_family_of_5_stuck_in_a_perpetual_time_loop_of_agony 07:50:43 thanku 07:50:54 oh wait i have a great idea! 07:51:05 i do pathfinding stuff 07:51:16 i dont get the 07:51:20 subprogram algo 07:51:27 aaaaa 07:51:29 I get it 07:52:00 "find the rectangle that CONTAINS largest contiguous shape that only consists of the symbol, for every symbol" 07:52:04 thats nice 07:52:14 [[Draft:A family of 5 stuck in a perpetual time loop of agony]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1108 M * Dragoneater67 * (+18) * /* Syntax */ dropped somr words 07:53:16 I think the contagious shape could act as a sort of function which applies to the other shapes within the sub program 07:53:20 similair to brackets 07:53:23 so in 07:53:34 AAAAAAA 07:53:34 ABCCCCA 07:53:35 ABBBBCA 07:53:35 AAAAAAA 07:53:38 the shape 07:53:49 AAAAAAA 07:53:50 A A 07:53:50 A A 07:53:51 AAAAAAA 07:53:56 acts as a function which applies to 07:54:07 BCCCC 07:54:07 BBBBC 07:54:10 eh 07:54:14 de67_ see abpve 07:54:28 ok 08:05:59 [[NNice]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1109 * Yayimhere * (-178) * /* Values and Functions */ 08:08:04 [[NNice]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1110 * Yayimhere * (+3281) 08:11:06 [[Draft:Owo u want more slop? ill give you your sloplangs uwu~ :3]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1111 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+1108) * i give up my time is better spent making something else 08:22:54 yk what 08:22:59 i have a better idea for a syntax 08:29:25 nvm 08:59:51 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1112 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+807) * /* Scoring */ Lay some expectations 09:02:34 If Brainfuck Minesweeper dies I will at least make sure it dies finished 09:32:10 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1113 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+244) * /* Scoring */ The raw scoring for tiles opened is quite simple 10:07:37 hi 10:14:17 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1114 * KaleidoscopeFive * (-118) * /* Scoring */ 10:43:14 Dragoneater67 -> dragon -> Taneb -> Befunge -> fungot -> kidnapping -> esomark -> clone -> Kagamine Rin and Len -> VOCALOID -> Gumi -> Synthesizer V -> synthesizer -> MIDI -> Music Macro Language -> BASIC -> Truttle1 -> TypeScript -> JavaScr*pt -> esolang 10:43:14 esomark-ng: superstaranova: now congrats 10:43:33 Thanks esomark! I finally connected our decentralized underground insurgency to esolangs! 10:43:33 10:48:52 kaleidoscope: connect NNice and the cure for evil 10:48:55 i dare u 10:49:00 * kaleidoscopefive I mean 10:50:06 ais523 -> Infinite Vector -> vector (math) -> std::vector (C++) -> Vec (Rust) -> ArrayList (Java) -> array (data structure) -> tape (data structure) -> brainfuck -> COBOL -> Truttle1 -> SNES -> Apollo Guidance Computer -> rope memory -> read-only memory -> Harvard architecture - EXCEL-ASM8 - Minecraft -> PortalRunner -> Portal 2 -> Source (engine) -> Valve -> Steam -> bash -> scripting language -> Python -> PyFuck -> esolang 10:50:10 I just connected ais523 to esolangs! 10:50:20 nice! 10:51:21 NNice to the cure for evil next 10:51:39 btw is "the cure for evil" meant to be a reference or is it just the cure for evil 10:54:26 literally 10:54:30 the cure for evil 10:54:37 its not a reference:) 11:10:27 NNice -> existents -> existing -> Nonexisty (BFDI) -> Two (BFDI) -> mangosteen -> Malaysia and Borneo -> Maphilindo -> Philippines -> typhoon -> Typhon (Monte implementation) -> Monte -> Corbin -> ASTLang -> NTMDev -> PyStacky -> LOLGraphics -> LOLCODE -> ArnoldC -> C -> Rust -> Crust -> Tsoding -> Jai -> C++ -> Saccharin (esolang implementation) -> raiseafloppafan7741 (yours truly) -> Raise a Floppa -> Roblox -> Luau -> Lua -> Aadenb 11:10:27 oy -> Cosine (catto) -> coversine -> versine -> sine -> sin (abbreviation of sine) -> sin -> Confessions of a Rotten Girl -> Hatsune Miku -> Exorcist (Something's off with my Vocaloid) -> AI psychosis -> AI -> Terminator -> evil -> ??? 11:10:31 (what I have so far) 11:11:18 No idea how the hell I got Maphilindo in there but it works I guess 11:14:45 NNice -> existents -> existing -> Nonexisty (BFDI) -> Two (BFDI) -> mangosteen -> Malaysia and Borneo -> Maphilindo -> Philippines -> typhoon -> Typhon (Monte implementation) -> Monte -> Corbin -> ASTLang -> NTMDev -> PyStacky -> LOLGraphics -> LOLCODE -> ArnoldC -> C -> Rust -> Crust -> Tsoding -> Jai -> C++ -> Saccharin (esolang implementation) -> raiseafloppafan7741 (yours truly) -> Raise a Floppa -> Roblox -> Luau -> Lua -> Aadenb 11:14:46 oy -> Cosine (catto) -> coversine -> versine -> sine -> sin (abbreviation of sine) -> sin -> Confessions of a Rotten Girl -> Hatsune Miku -> Exorcist (Something's off with my Vocaloid) -> AI psychosis -> AI -> Terminator -> evil -> esomark -> Dragoneater67 -> dragon -> Taneb -> Befunge -> fungot -> kidnapping -> Spira. (esowiki) -> Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis -> pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (Baldi mo 11:14:46 11:14:46 d) -> The Frustrated Gamer -> Kindly Keyin -> Baldi's Basics -> NULL -> null pointer -> null reference -> billion dollar mistake -> billion laughs attack -> XML -> HTML -> React -> Facebook/Meta -> React Native -> GitHub -> Micro$lop -> Micro$lop Edge -> Google Chrome -> Google (company) -> "Don't do evil" -> ??? 11:14:51 That's where it is right now 11:21:10 This also means that LOLCODE is connected to Maphilindo and Miku somehow 11:22:14 I think the power of being able to relate anything to anything is a very cool power but also has implications 11:22:38 And this is literally the lower end of the power spectrum lmao 11:28:02 hollly shit 11:28:19 also how are u doing this? 11:31:36 ? 11:32:04 like, is it by links or what 11:33:12 I just think of what vaguely relates to what and if I don't know anything or want to find something exotic I find random links on their Wikipedia page 11:33:29 ah ok 11:33:29 *what relates to what in ANY way 11:48:06 ahh back 11:48:23 nice 11:48:33 I think there should be a database connecting things to things it would be kinda interesting 11:49:12 yea 11:49:15 that would be nice 11:58:59 I was just reading something then when I saw #something-with-a-number-sign-or-a-hashtag-or-an-octothorpe-in-front-of-it I thought it was an IRC channel lol 12:00:08 lmao 12:00:49 now thats no existing channel is on my channel list lol 12:13:47 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1115 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+543) * /* Scoring */ differentiate per-round and overall statistics + bump round count to 60 12:20:21 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1116 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+39) * /* Overview */ 12:24:26 [[Draft:Brainfuck Minesweeper]] https://esolanging.wiki/mediawiki/index.php?diff=1117 * KaleidoscopeFive * (+398) * 75 rounds, give or take 12:37:06 Great now I have to change the refimpl 12:49:30 UGH 12:52:50 better 12:53:13 My brainfuck interpreter is broken somehow 12:54:44 hi guys 12:54:46 im bacc 12:55:02 Hi de67 12:55:38 yeuwrhwjqekhrlwqekjrwqe 12:55:44 u think i figured my draft out!!! 12:55:45 also 12:55:50 i think* 12:55:52 also 12:55:54 uh 12:55:57 i already forgor 12:56:03 ? 12:56:06 Oh ok 12:56:22 (remember to read before thinking and think before saying, as if I'd take my own advice lmao) 12:56:38 ``this declaration of struct "Player" does not declare the same type as the declaration at line 51 of "C:\Users\raiseafloppafan0401\Projects\esoteric\BrainfuckMinesweeper\src\bfminesweeper.h"`` <- wtf is this thing yapping about 12:56:49 I guess this is why people use Notepad++ 12:57:36 I think microslop vibecoded the c/c++ intellisense thing and now it's shitting bricks 12:58:30 wtf is going on with brainfuck minesweeper 12:59:02 first micoslop broke c/c++ intellisense with a brick and now for uninstalling the extension for being broken they curse my brainfuck minesweeper implementation to break 13:02:29 Nvm it's my brainfuck compiler 13:03:24 Ohh the compiler had a minor oversight 13:03:38 oh wow 13:04:01 Basicall an off-by-one error that broke everything 13:04:41 At https://codeberg.org/raiseafloppafan7741/bf-minesweeper/src/branch/main/src/player.c#L94 I should've incremented the PC value 13:04:48 That's it lmao 13:05:16 oh my oh my quite a lot happened since i left 13:05:22 Really? 13:05:25 i left idk, i think 17 years ago 13:05:32 Esowiki, esolangingwiki, #esolangs, or #esolanging? 13:05:37 esowiki 13:05:55 Three new people 13:06:12 None1 wants to rename Category:Esoteric subset to be plural 13:06:17 (actaullay no thats me) 13:06:24 (none1 just asked if we should rename it) 13:06:41 it is consiumg the fish that consumes fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes that consume fishes 13:06:42 Blashyrkh rewrote the B Flat bruteforcer in ++C 13:06:50 interesting 13:06:57 ++C 13:06:59 whar 13:07:00 huh 13:07:01 when 13:07:12 https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Blashyrkh/B_Flat&curid=27643&oldid=202020 13:08:21 Also spira made https://esolangs.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%BC_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8B_Esolang:2026, 13:08:24 WTF 13:08:34 Предложением по актуальности темы Esolang:2026, 13:08:36 That's the name 13:08:41 Idk what that means 13:08:51 Esolang:2026 topicality proposal 13:08:55 ohhh 13:08:59 but it was translated incorrectly 13:09:11 because apparently apira. used machine translation 13:10:25 ``this declaration of struct "Tile" does not declare the same type as the declaration at line 20 of "C:\Users\raiseafloppafan0401\Projects\esoteric\BrainfuckMinesweeper\src\bfminesweeper.h"`` <- What kinda drugs were they using 13:10:36 six sayven 13:10:36 I'll just use notepad then 13:10:44 notepad is tainted too 13:10:45 (but notepad has a fucking copilot button in it) 13:10:57 you should use ed 13:10:59 I'll just use bob's useful text editor 13:11:07 the only editor that is guaranteed to not be tainted 13:11:07 (or useless idk i forgot the u) 13:11:38 bob's u[something i forgor] text editor 13:11:50 i think its useless 13:11:55 at least when compared to ed 13:12:03 ed is truly the greatest editor of all time 13:12:18 hm 13:12:27